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now on with the show this week we're

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joined by two co-hosts two for the price

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of one

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of course since we don't charge for the

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show that means that you get to without

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paying an extra dime we have Nicholas

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Redfern and we have Christopher O'Brien

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and later on the show we'll be talking

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to David Hatcher of Childress about his

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latest book called Yeti Sasquatch and

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hairy Giants now we know the co-hosts

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all have other lives other than the show

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they don't spend 24/7 working with me if

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they did they'd be very poor so they

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have to have real lives in addition to

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this kind of life and so I'll ask you

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Chris what have you been working on

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recently what are your plans lots of

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video I actually have been helping

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produce a retro drive-in double features

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series we're up to about five I think

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five titles and you know working on

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chasing down some reports in the San

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Luis Valley have a very interesting case

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happened to some visitors a couple

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in the valley and had a very interesting

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experience in a guest house where a

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super bright object circled the house

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and very close proximity and some twenty

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minutes later I have an unrelated report

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very similar from about fifteen miles

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south near the Great Sand Dunes it has a

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similar descriptions fine would you

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describe this geography better for our

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talking about in case they're looking

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over their Google Maps or something

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right well the San Luis Valley is

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world's largest Alpine Valley it's

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located in south-central Colorado and

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New Mexico and about the halfway point

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on the east side of the valley is the

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world's most mysterious sand dune desert

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and it seems to be the kind of the

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spot in the San Luis Valley for a lot of

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very interesting reports the crest owned

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area is about 15 miles north of there

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about a half-hour 20 minutes of one

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another very similar sounding

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descriptions I'm tracking down witnesses

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to the second event I've been in contact

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now with the couple from Rome they're

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back in Italy when to be doing an

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witnesses it was a group of campers down

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MIT actually and Greg spoke at last year

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interesting question here when you do

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preparation do you do or do you have

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conference so I'll be doing this Emily

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two two and a half hours I'm gonna have

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so are you available to give speeches

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around the country or they have to

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obviously pay your plane fare or send

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you an airplane you know like if they

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want the lecture over at Apple

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headquarters Steve Jobs has a jet yeah

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he can just fly me over you know I don't

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do that many conferences I'm not really

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on the the a list for conference

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speakers because a lot of what I have to

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say is for reticle in the UFO community

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conferences over the years I average

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about one or two a year probably Nick

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books at a time so how do you sort it

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have you been working on recently what

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are you working on in the near future

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well actually right now I have a new

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book out called final events which is

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probably going to be a very perhaps the

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most controversial ufo-related book I've

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ever written for the last four years

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I've been hot on the trail of they're

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almost like a think-tank type group

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very clandestinely for many years but as

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hypothesis and concludes that these

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things are quite literally demonic when

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literally like the minions of Satan

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preparing for Armageddon and that the

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whole abduction UFO angle is like a

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smoke screen a deception now of course

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UFO research field over the years who

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supported this theory you know who

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a cult driven about the subject what

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much until now is the fact that there

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are people within governments who have I

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guess organized bodies and meetings that

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have come to this conclusion and II

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marnik really yes literally yeah I mean

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this subject there was a guy named

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Nelson Pacheco and Tommy but bland they

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the enemy throughout the years that's

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cover this whole area the idea that you

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of them in the first place prior to

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I was radical I better watch how I use

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that term yeah one of the things that

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whole angle of well if aliens exist why

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to save us and according to this group

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operandi if you like and according to

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them what they've concluded is going on

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is that the aliens quote aliens vary

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order to literal demons fallen angels

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human souls they're like a life force

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matrix scenario where we live this life

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ancient rites and rituals other than

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machines and they talk about the idea of

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human souls being harvested for this

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poorly understood life energy that these

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the planet they actually want us to keep

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equivalent to a farm that they feed upon

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and again you know that's a highly

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controversial theory but you know the

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idea of recycling souls if something has

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occasions within within abduction

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research it's just you know some

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perspective others haven't well we know

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dr. David Jacobs talks of hybrids and we

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can get into that that's almost entirely

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different discussion so this book is

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coming out when this will be out in

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about four days time it's called persona

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live a final event and by the way that

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means this book will be available when

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you hear this episode and we'll have

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Nick back to talk more about it because

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we're really curious but today we have a

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totally different subject or maybe not

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we're going to be talking about the book

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by David Hatcher Childress called yetis

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Sasquatch and hairy giants Chris kind of

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his school and did a presentation this

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footage from Bluff Creek that everyone

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this subject and in the intervening

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world and one of the things that he's

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constantly open to and it's always

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curious about is reports of hairy giants

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and sus quashes Bigfoot however you want

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to call them and in the ISA Court of

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of the the people that I think has more

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Yeti from Asia than anyone that I've

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encountered and his recent book is just

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packed filled with just wonderful

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stories and accounts to go all the way

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back into the Middle Ages even of these

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so very enigmatic creatures and we have

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worldwide UFO cover-up by Timothy good

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to misy good as you know has been a

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lies and deception UFOs and the secret

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agenda from Timothy good once again and

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also from our old friend Nick Pope as

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you know Nick Pope has also been on the

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power cast this is another book that

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you're definitely going to want to check

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continue to hear stories about property

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cast by David hazard Childress his

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recent book is Yeti Sasquatch and hairy

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Giants one among many books that he's

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published and written over the years our

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co-host this week our Nicholas Redfern

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and Chris O'Brien

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now David how did you become interested

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in looking for strange creatures

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specifically Yeti Sasquatch and hairy

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giants well you know I've always been

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interested in cryptozoology and then

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just zoology and unknown animals but

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when I was in high school junior high

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school actually in Durango Colorado

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Roger Patterson

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came to our high school and it was 1967

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or something and gave a presentation

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this was before he had taken in fact his

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his famous Bluff Creek California

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Bigfoot footage so he was really talking

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about stuff from his early book here's

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his book cut to abominable snowmen of

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America really exist was for sale and I

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bought a copy probably got him to

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autograph that even and and that kind of

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got me going really I was from then on

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out I bought other books on Bigfoot and

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hanonqueue fo xand paranormal and even

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books like Chariots of the Gods by Erich

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von däniken and now I'm the author

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myself of over 20 books how about that

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now with regard to strange creatures how

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did you do your investigation did you

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look up written information you go on

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the scene on-site to talk to people

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how'd you do it

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well most of my research is done through

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through books and the internet and

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interviewing people with regard to

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Yeti's and and Bigfoot to a point I've

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gone on certain expeditions and trips

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myself into nape although a number of

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times and on those trips have gone into

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Yeti areas of talk to Sherpas and other

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people who've claimed up seeing yetis or

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taking photographs of footprints and

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things like that and it's my book on

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Yeti Sasquatch and hairy giants much of

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that book towards the end is about

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really lesser-known

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Bigfoot and skunk ape reports throughout

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the United States including Illinois and

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Arkansas Florida of all over the eastern

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parts of the US and one of my own

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personal investigations there was with

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the DuPont monster which is a well known

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Bigfoot case in Seneca Illinois which is

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really just go 6070 miles southwest of

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Chicago now in the course of this

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investigation did you find anything that

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would lead you to believe that there

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were a fair number or any reasonable

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number of hoaxes being perpetrated here

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I certainly think that there are

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Bigfoots being you know perpetrated and

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particularly when you go on the internet

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and look at some of the photos and video

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footage there it's clear that a lot of

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it's actually a hoax and it's finding

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you know the truth is out there shall we

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say it's not my opinion though that you

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know people who report Bigfoot

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encounters skunk ape encounters or or

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Yeti encounters for that matter are

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fakers or people who are making up

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stories for their own just you know for

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themselves or something

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most Bigfoot stories that I've come

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across seem to be genuine and and mainly

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because the people have no real reason

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to be deceptive I found really that

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people are reluctant to tell their

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stories about Bigfoot largely because I

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think that their friends and others

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won't believe them and it makes them

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look stupid and kind of food

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kind of dumb oh you saw Bigfoot you know

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or this or that happened

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and so in my mind the people who

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actually come out and say yeah this is

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what I saw I mean they're they're

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bucking the trend and and actually you

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know they're being brave by saying oh

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yeah I know what I saw and this is what

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happened to me now let's let's look at

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the background of the legends of strange

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creatures now the beginning of the book

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you're talking about the Giants in the

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Bible and elsewhere so before we see if

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there's any connection what were these

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giants all about those stories of giants

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and wild men of your Bigfoot of course

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it's often said to be eight nine ten

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twelve feet tall making them of course

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literal giants we get many stories of

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giants like on the Bible the paym story

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of David Goliath of course the sons of

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God and a Kim and Nephilim and things

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like that they were apparently ten

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twelve he told stories of giants have

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always fascinated me and it's what

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weight the people we're taller in

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ancient times and we've been getting

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shorter over the years but my research

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there with with the Giants was really to

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really bring out the the early stories

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of wild men and they're often Giants too

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and that these these guys who are living

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on the edge of civilization they're

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they're humans but they're not

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completely human cavemen as you might

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say

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Neanderthals perhaps in some cases

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they're just perhaps crazy people who've

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been outcast from society and now live

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deep in the woods without clothing sort

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of a village idiot is the kind of a

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thing

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and I mean this is a real phenomenon we

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particularly in Europe in the Middle

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Ages stories of wild men were very

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common and the idea that some of these

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guys were of course unusually tall like

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Bigfoot

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and the big question there with with

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wild men and and hairy Giants in a sense

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is whether they're really humans or

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whether they're leaves eight men which

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is a kind of wood sasquatch and yetis

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appear to be there they're humans in a

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sense but very hairy they're stronger

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than us in my book and probably getting

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a little bit ahead of myself here but

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yeah there's even stories of Sasquatch

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and yetis mating with humans both with

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males and female humans mating with male

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and females yetis in Bigfoot we heard

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about in the Bible about Giants mating

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with human women quote-unquote but

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wouldn't it also be kind of unusual here

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about the fact that I got the impression

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that the Giants of old were fairly

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advanced beings but then we're talking

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about Neanderthals and other primitive

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beings so isn't there some kind of

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contradiction or a line of demarcation

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here well sure that's a good point

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yeah the supposed sons of God who were

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giants yeah they were then advanced

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beings rather than hairy eight men or

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00:22:04,599 --> 00:22:01,009
something in fact you could argue that

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00:22:08,559 --> 00:22:04,609
these guys spaceships and all kinds of

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00:22:11,049 --> 00:22:08,569
advanced technology and so yeah so those

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kind of giants and just other human

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Giants and I even at the end of that

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chapter I run through even some of the

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modern Giants and giantesses that we

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know about and have been measured and

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part of you know my study with that was

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to look at people

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totus humans who were just unusually

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in a moment David

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childress author of twenty books

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including Yeti Sasquatch and hairy

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giants one of his most recent titles

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we're talking about the strange large

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creatures of old and maybe to the

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present day our co-host this week are

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Chris O'Brien and Nick Redfern I'm gene

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Steinberg you're in the power cast Nick

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you had some questions yeah I mean

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having read the book Dave it's just a

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great addition not least for the one

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reason being this the huge size of the

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book for the listeners there it's almost

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400 pages long and has some excellent a

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very little-known

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lot of color photographs I think that's

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one of the things that's going to

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greatly appeal to people but one of the

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things that's kind of come up when James

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talking you know is this once a

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contradiction but the angle that some of

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these creatures in history you know come

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across as very intelligent and advanced

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others less so

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and I was wondering from your

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perspective and the research you've done

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do you feel they're creatures like

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Bigfoot the Yeti etc needs to be classed

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separately until we understand what they

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are rather than all being offshoots of

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the same creature if you like in other

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words do you think we could be actually

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looking at several different types of

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mystery oh yes sure no I very much agree

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with that and even yetis there are three

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or four different types of yetis

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different colors different sizes there's

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a smaller one that only you know four or

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five feet tall I mean actually a little

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bit smaller than a human I think that

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the ones like or on panic in Sumatra and

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parts of Malaysia this is also probably

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also a slightly different species more

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akin to an orangutan particularly would

716
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say Bigfoot in North America the most

717
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famous stories are really from the

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Pacific Northwest and the Bigfoot there

719
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is really probably the largest of all of

720
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these creatures it seems and these guys

721
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are genuinely huge and and Giants by

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that kind of reckoning where you could

723
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easily encounter some being that's 9 10

724
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feet tall when you look at more than

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skunk Apes of the southern states and in

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the swamps they're clearly smaller

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animals and more about the size of a

728
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human you have different colors of fur

729
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reddish-brown is often you know the most

730
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common color that they're said to be but

731
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they can be very dark even grayish and

732
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then you have the stories which I find

733
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particularly fascinating these

734
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white-haired Bigfoot's that are commonly

735
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seen and they appear to be some kind of

736
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elderly you know cast out Bigfoot who's

737
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been kind of like in like lions do this

738
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where they younger lions force the old

739
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lions out of the pride and they had to

740
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become like a rogue lion hunting for

741
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themselves and it even appears that this

742
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happens with Bigfoot and some of the

743
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encounters I believe of some of the

744
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Bigfoot who really do range close to

745
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civilization start dumpster diving and

746
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:45,480
things like that are these older rogue

747
00:30:51,260 --> 00:30:48,000
Bigfoot and they're they're often you

748
00:30:53,780 --> 00:30:51,270
know pure white this one that was seen

749
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:53,790
recently in North Carolina was on the

750
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news this was in in June I guess it was

751
00:31:03,650 --> 00:31:00,780
and all the major news networks carried

752
00:31:06,260 --> 00:31:03,660
this and it was this mountain man up in

753
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the hills of North Carolina and he

754
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called the police claiming to close

755
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encounters with what he described is a

756
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ten-foot tall white-haired Bigfoot and

757
00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:18,630
curiously with that he claimed that

758
00:31:24,140 --> 00:31:21,990
Bigfoot had six fingers on each hand and

759
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:24,150
that goes back to the Bible which is

760
00:31:30,770 --> 00:31:28,170
curious where some of the Philistines

761
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and these giants of the Bible they were

762
00:31:35,580 --> 00:31:32,620
also said to have six

763
00:31:38,730 --> 00:31:35,590
fingers on each hand tell the net and I

764
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:38,740
guess kind of again on the angle of what

765
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:41,770
these creatures are I mean I think one

766
00:31:44,340 --> 00:31:42,850
of the things that's sort of one of the

767
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:44,350
themes that runs through many of these

768
00:31:49,410 --> 00:31:46,450
accounts these creatures are highly

769
00:31:52,740 --> 00:31:49,420
elusive whether it's in Himalayas in the

770
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:52,750
Pacific Northwest in Europe and I wonder

771
00:31:56,940 --> 00:31:54,610
if you felt the image of these creatures

772
00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:56,950
just being sort of dumb animals that

773
00:32:01,560 --> 00:31:58,080
have managed to hide from society

774
00:32:03,540 --> 00:32:01,570
convenient it was so long is valid or do

775
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:03,550
you think the fact that we're still

776
00:32:07,530 --> 00:32:06,010
looking for and suggest that mentally in

777
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:07,540
some respects at least they might be

778
00:32:11,850 --> 00:32:10,570
highly evolved and and that has some

779
00:32:13,860 --> 00:32:11,860
bearing on the fact that we're still

780
00:32:16,610 --> 00:32:13,870
scratching their heads while they're

781
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:16,620
still running around doing their thing

782
00:32:22,650 --> 00:32:19,809
well right I I think it's it's both

783
00:32:26,190 --> 00:32:22,660
those in a sense they are highly evolved

784
00:32:29,850 --> 00:32:26,200
I believe in this in that their hearing

785
00:32:35,510 --> 00:32:29,860
and sight and sense of smell are very

786
00:32:40,820 --> 00:32:35,520
very keen they're nocturnal they avoid

787
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:40,830
humans at all costs virtually they do

788
00:32:45,270 --> 00:32:43,690
what I found in my book as I was

789
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:45,280
researching it particularly nice the

790
00:32:52,830 --> 00:32:48,330
other things in eastern United States

791
00:32:58,260 --> 00:32:52,840
was that these skunk Apes these Bigfoot

792
00:33:03,030 --> 00:32:58,270
sasquatch guys the grassman that they do

793
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:03,040
live with in areas that are relatively

794
00:33:08,910 --> 00:33:06,610
fairly inhabited and populated well I

795
00:33:13,230 --> 00:33:08,920
mean I think even my own impression

796
00:33:17,610 --> 00:33:13,240
originally was that Bigfoot and Yeti

797
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:17,620
lived in the most remote mountain

798
00:33:25,410 --> 00:33:22,450
forests and and I mean gosh there's up

799
00:33:27,690 --> 00:33:25,420
in British Columbia and Washington State

800
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:27,700
and and Northern California even there's

801
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:30,809
huge vast for us

802
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:33,250
massive wilderness areas where all kinds

803
00:33:38,370 --> 00:33:35,370
of you know unknown creatures could live

804
00:33:42,210 --> 00:33:38,380
but when you start thinking that just

805
00:33:45,270 --> 00:33:42,220
swamps and forests in Illinois and New

806
00:33:48,030 --> 00:33:45,280
Jersey and Pennsylvania

807
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:48,040
North Carolina can also have these

808
00:33:53,130 --> 00:33:50,890
creatures that's where you start to

809
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:53,140
really sort of raise an eyebrow and

810
00:33:59,610 --> 00:33:56,170
think wow you know our other really

811
00:34:00,990 --> 00:33:59,620
these large unknown animals these eight

812
00:34:05,610 --> 00:34:01,000
men you know living in such close

813
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:05,620
proximity to humans and civilization and

814
00:34:11,970 --> 00:34:08,110
what I've come to the conclusion is that

815
00:34:13,950 --> 00:34:11,980
yes they are and they're they're

816
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:13,960
practically in your backyard they're

817
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:18,250
sneaking around late at night they they

818
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:21,610
take the most darkest little ravines and

819
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:27,690
and in river streams you know to get to

820
00:34:34,590 --> 00:34:31,770
whatever some orchard where they want to

821
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pick peaches and that was one of the

822
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:35,500
stories in my book

823
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:38,169
do we even like I say dumpster diving or

824
00:34:42,659 --> 00:34:39,760
sometimes they're just crossing a road

825
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from one side of a swamp to another and

826
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someone I don't know you know late at

827
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night it's coming down that highway and

828
00:34:51,740 --> 00:34:48,850
catches a Bigfoot in the headlights kind

829
00:34:54,090 --> 00:34:51,750
of thing and it all happens very quickly

830
00:34:56,490 --> 00:34:54,100
people often you know they're startled

831
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:56,500
they don't know what they've seen a they

832
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will often call the police or they tell

833
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their parents or they suddenly turn

834
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around and go to the police department

835
00:35:08,610 --> 00:35:05,080
tell this amazing story of what's all

836
00:35:10,410 --> 00:35:08,620
happened to them and for a day or two

837
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:10,420
it's on the local radio station even

838
00:35:14,130 --> 00:35:12,010
gets into the newspaper and everybody

839
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:14,140
forgets about it again I do you think

840
00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:16,810
these creatures are more than human or

841
00:35:22,830 --> 00:35:18,460
the other way around or is it somewhere

842
00:35:26,010 --> 00:35:22,840
in between using the aids are human know

843
00:35:28,860 --> 00:35:26,020
what I try to get that okay do you think

844
00:35:31,830 --> 00:35:28,870
these creatures are more than human or

845
00:35:34,410 --> 00:35:31,840
more I guess like primitive humans Benet

846
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:34,420
or is it somewhere in between well

847
00:35:40,620 --> 00:35:37,170
somewhere in between but they they are

848
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:40,630
the very similar humans of course and

849
00:35:45,540 --> 00:35:43,450
and people when they first see them

850
00:35:48,060 --> 00:35:45,550
often mistaken for a human except

851
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:48,070
they're not wearing any clothes they're

852
00:35:55,050 --> 00:35:52,240
large they carry of course and they do

853
00:35:57,260 --> 00:35:55,060
they look like monsters but still have

854
00:36:00,350 --> 00:35:57,270
this human fabulous

855
00:36:05,060 --> 00:36:00,360
when you look at the genetics of eight

856
00:36:07,730 --> 00:36:05,070
and I'm not some expert on Apes really

857
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:07,740
but I certainly looked into it a little

858
00:36:20,210 --> 00:36:13,200
bit in my research but many things are

859
00:36:24,350 --> 00:36:20,220
one chromosome away from being human and

860
00:36:26,180 --> 00:36:24,360
that one chromosome is significant but

861
00:36:29,420 --> 00:36:26,190
you but orangutangs

862
00:36:33,470 --> 00:36:29,430
and humans in theory could mate and

863
00:36:35,870 --> 00:36:33,480
create some sort of half-breed human

864
00:36:38,420 --> 00:36:35,880
orangutan I'll tell you what we'll have

865
00:36:40,070 --> 00:36:38,430
to get into the interbreeding and all

866
00:36:42,109 --> 00:36:40,080
the other possibilities in our next

867
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section we have David Hatcher Childress

868
00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:43,860
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we return with David Hatcher Childress

983
00:41:30,220 --> 00:41:28,010
he's author of Yeti Sasquatch and

984
00:41:32,350 --> 00:41:30,230
harried Giants we were talking in the

985
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:32,360
last section about possible

986
00:41:36,670 --> 00:41:35,090
interbreeding Chris O'Brien and Nick

987
00:41:38,980 --> 00:41:36,680
Redfern are the co-hosts on gene

988
00:41:40,750 --> 00:41:38,990
Steinberg you're in the power cast Chris

989
00:41:43,450 --> 00:41:40,760
you want to take David on that journey

990
00:41:47,890 --> 00:41:43,460
of possible interbreeding between Yeti

991
00:41:50,590 --> 00:41:47,900
and humans yeah that's one of the more

992
00:41:52,540 --> 00:41:50,600
interesting elements I guess in one

993
00:41:55,260 --> 00:41:52,550
sense the word of your book David is

994
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:55,270
some very interesting stories claims by

995
00:41:59,800 --> 00:41:57,680
people who say they've been abducted

996
00:42:02,620 --> 00:41:59,810
both male and female that they've been

997
00:42:05,350 --> 00:42:02,630
abducted by Bigfoot's and the one story

998
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:05,360
that was particularly striking I believe

999
00:42:10,060 --> 00:42:07,370
was the woman I think in Russia who

1000
00:42:12,460 --> 00:42:10,070
actually made it with a Bigfoot in and I

1001
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:12,470
had a son I did you want to talk about

1002
00:42:18,970 --> 00:42:14,650
that that's a fascinating news story

1003
00:42:24,010 --> 00:42:18,980
well right you know that that was in

1004
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:24,020
Dagestan and in in Mongolia Central Asia

1005
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:30,770
the Russian Republic areas typically the

1006
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:34,690
yetis there are known as an almost a

1007
00:42:42,940 --> 00:42:39,770
LMAs or some derivative of that and it

1008
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:42,950
was yeah it was during World War two

1009
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:45,050
when all kinds of unusual things were

1010
00:42:51,610 --> 00:42:47,330
going on they realized that there was

1011
00:42:55,770 --> 00:42:51,620
this family that was living and in

1012
00:42:59,620 --> 00:42:55,780
Dagestan and they had captured a woman a

1013
00:43:03,790 --> 00:42:59,630
female Bigfoot I should say an almost

1014
00:43:06,670 --> 00:43:03,800
and it was kept in this village as a

1015
00:43:10,230 --> 00:43:06,680
captive but they somehow managed to tame

1016
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:10,240
this female Bigfoot and it actually

1017
00:43:17,230 --> 00:43:14,240
married somebody Lozano was the name

1018
00:43:21,430 --> 00:43:17,240
they gave her she she was unable to

1019
00:43:27,550 --> 00:43:21,440
speak but she did have several songs and

1020
00:43:29,530 --> 00:43:27,560
in the 1950s the Soviets actually did

1021
00:43:32,890 --> 00:43:29,540
some studies with them and there's a

1022
00:43:37,540 --> 00:43:32,900
photograph in my book of a guy named

1023
00:43:42,810 --> 00:43:37,550
wit from 1954 and he's apparently some

1024
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:42,820
kind of half human half almost Bigfoot

1025
00:43:51,820 --> 00:43:47,810
character and you know he's was a just a

1026
00:43:53,530 --> 00:43:51,830
normal villager in this just a little

1027
00:43:56,170 --> 00:43:53,540
town I don't think he went out and

1028
00:43:59,290 --> 00:43:56,180
became a you know rocket scientist or a

1029
00:44:01,120 --> 00:43:59,300
or a doctor or anything like that but

1030
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:01,130
you know there's other stories like that

1031
00:44:08,050 --> 00:44:03,530
- there's I've got photos in the book of

1032
00:44:15,010 --> 00:44:08,060
a very strange woman in Brazil who also

1033
00:44:17,380 --> 00:44:15,020
looks like a part human part a woman and

1034
00:44:17,950 --> 00:44:17,390
whatever happened to her we don't really

1035
00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:17,960
know

1036
00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:20,710
in Nepal there's a very famous story

1037
00:44:30,910 --> 00:44:25,280
which happened in the 1920s of a Sherpa

1038
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:30,920
gal named Noam edema and she was in a

1039
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:33,410
remote yak pasture watching her reacts

1040
00:44:40,420 --> 00:44:37,370
when she was allegedly abducted by a

1041
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:40,430
Yeti and you have this whole story of a

1042
00:44:46,750 --> 00:44:43,610
Yeti Lonely Hearts Club kind of thing

1043
00:44:50,020 --> 00:44:46,760
where this lowly Eddie finds what is

1044
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:50,030
really an ass and sort of a lowly Sherpa

1045
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:51,710
girl although she's not a willing

1046
00:44:59,920 --> 00:44:55,850
captive of this Yeti but he takes her up

1047
00:45:03,940 --> 00:44:59,930
to a cave up in the mountains and in

1048
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:03,950
Nepal to is what particularly with Nepal

1049
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:07,610
and Sikkim and Boutin and and other

1050
00:45:13,660 --> 00:45:11,510
areas of the himalayas and kind of

1051
00:45:17,590 --> 00:45:13,670
eastern Tibet you have these steep

1052
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:17,600
mountains and icy passes and and whatnot

1053
00:45:23,740 --> 00:45:22,010
but you have deep ravines and river

1054
00:45:27,310 --> 00:45:23,750
areas like the are and valley and

1055
00:45:30,010 --> 00:45:27,320
there's literally just within several

1056
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:30,020
thousand feet and within a few miles of

1057
00:45:37,990 --> 00:45:34,490
this tremendous eco range of deep forest

1058
00:45:41,620 --> 00:45:38,000
and he even literally jungle wares and

1059
00:45:42,550 --> 00:45:41,630
also snow-capped peaks and icy passes

1060
00:45:46,690 --> 00:45:42,560
and things like that

1061
00:45:49,330 --> 00:45:46,700
so with her she was then taken

1062
00:45:52,270 --> 00:45:49,340
rather rather than go up higher in the

1063
00:45:56,170 --> 00:45:52,280
mountains to some icy snow cave they're

1064
00:45:58,480 --> 00:45:56,180
taken down into these river valleys that

1065
00:46:01,030 --> 00:45:58,490
are deep and there's and they're heavily

1066
00:46:03,310 --> 00:46:01,040
forested and then there's caves there

1067
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:03,320
she claimed I mean for years she lived

1068
00:46:09,790 --> 00:46:07,520
with this Yeti he would turn over this

1069
00:46:11,950 --> 00:46:09,800
is what she claimed giant rocks in the

1070
00:46:13,150 --> 00:46:11,960
streams and things and under those rocks

1071
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:13,160
there would be all these little frogs

1072
00:46:16,630 --> 00:46:14,690
and fishes and he would gather them up

1073
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:16,640
and they would eat them they live this

1074
00:46:23,950 --> 00:46:20,090
hunter-gathering existence they slept in

1075
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:23,960
this cave she described it to as you

1076
00:46:29,620 --> 00:46:26,330
know she wasn't really an unwilling wife

1077
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:29,630
of this Yeti but over time on cold

1078
00:46:36,070 --> 00:46:32,000
nights and things like that yes they

1079
00:46:40,060 --> 00:46:36,080
began having sex and she ultimately had

1080
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:40,070
a child by this Yeti the story then and

1081
00:46:45,610 --> 00:46:42,110
there's there several stories similar to

1082
00:46:47,770 --> 00:46:45,620
this in both Bhutan and in Nepal where

1083
00:46:50,890 --> 00:46:47,780
they have a child and there's another

1084
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:50,900
story similar where a man is kidnapped

1085
00:46:54,820 --> 00:46:53,570
by a female Yeti assure p'x he they also

1086
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:54,830
have a child together

1087
00:47:00,760 --> 00:46:57,440
but over several years of being a

1088
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:00,770
captive of this Yeti there they devised

1089
00:47:05,830 --> 00:47:04,010
a way to escape and it's not easy but

1090
00:47:09,490 --> 00:47:05,840
somehow they're able to when there's a

1091
00:47:13,180 --> 00:47:09,500
chance to run get across a big ravine or

1092
00:47:16,180 --> 00:47:13,190
a stream kick off a log or something

1093
00:47:19,060 --> 00:47:16,190
that gives them access and somehow

1094
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:19,070
escape back to their village which isn't

1095
00:47:25,150 --> 00:47:22,010
really that far but still in those steep

1096
00:47:27,790 --> 00:47:25,160
remote mountains you know can be several

1097
00:47:31,630 --> 00:47:27,800
day hike over a mountain pass well what

1098
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:31,640
happens in each of these stories is the

1099
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:35,570
Yeti husband or wife in this case comes

1100
00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:38,690
back to the village or shows this half

1101
00:47:49,090 --> 00:47:44,960
baby half Yeti half human half Yeti baby

1102
00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:49,100
but then it tears that baby up and kills

1103
00:47:55,180 --> 00:47:52,400
it right in front of the father or the

1104
00:47:57,740 --> 00:47:55,190
mother that's a human ripping it I mean

1105
00:48:00,320 --> 00:47:57,750
it's ripping its arms and legs off just

1106
00:48:03,500 --> 00:48:00,330
tearing it into pieces and then leaving

1107
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:03,510
in some cases to the villagers hunted

1108
00:48:08,450 --> 00:48:05,760
down one of these yetis and killed it

1109
00:48:11,660 --> 00:48:08,460
because it was coming every night to

1110
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:11,670
this village where they where was you

1111
00:48:18,110 --> 00:48:14,370
know knew that it's kidnapped ex-wife

1112
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:18,120
was living that woman Noma dima who was

1113
00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:20,850
very famous in nepal i mean her life was

1114
00:48:25,790 --> 00:48:22,710
shattered by being kidnapped by a Yeti

1115
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:25,800
basically and she entered a Buddhist

1116
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:28,110
monastery and lived the last of her

1117
00:48:33,410 --> 00:48:30,480
lives as a Buddhist nun this one named a

1118
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:33,420
story to about in Canada of a guy a

1119
00:48:39,620 --> 00:48:35,760
Canadian back in the 20s and he was

1120
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:39,630
kidnapped as well by a family of yetis

1121
00:48:45,980 --> 00:48:42,570
and held captive only for a few days but

1122
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:45,990
they too seemed to want him to marry

1123
00:48:50,930 --> 00:48:49,440
this Yeti female young Yeti that was

1124
00:48:53,660 --> 00:48:50,940
there that's a famous story you probably

1125
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:53,670
know that one Nick yeah I mean there's a

1126
00:48:58,430 --> 00:48:55,680
lot of stories like this you know where

1127
00:48:59,720 --> 00:48:58,440
you get human interaction with these

1128
00:49:02,150 --> 00:48:59,730
creatures and that's one of the things

1129
00:49:04,490 --> 00:49:02,160
that fascinates me is that it makes me

1130
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:04,500
want suspect at least that there's a

1131
00:49:10,010 --> 00:49:07,110
connection between us and then you know

1132
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:10,020
you don't necessarily see people having

1133
00:49:17,210 --> 00:49:14,490
you know fascination we've had no wolves

1134
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:17,220
or bears or whatever you know but they

1135
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:19,650
seem to be fascinated with people which

1136
00:49:25,310 --> 00:49:22,710
somehow suggests that on some level at

1137
00:49:28,340 --> 00:49:25,320
least in my mind that there's I guess

1138
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:28,350
like a physical connection or a species

1139
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:31,410
connection somehow they are yeah I

1140
00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:32,610
totally agree with you they are

1141
00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:35,730
fascinated by humans they don't have

1142
00:49:42,340 --> 00:49:38,240
fire and this is one of the things that

1143
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:42,350
comes up continually with people who do

1144
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:45,690
interact with yetis almost a Bigfoot is

1145
00:49:52,820 --> 00:49:48,000
that yeah they live in caves and these

1146
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:52,830
nests they use tools and things they do

1147
00:49:59,000 --> 00:49:56,610
communicate somehow with clicks and

1148
00:50:02,270 --> 00:49:59,010
sounds and things but they they're

1149
00:50:08,390 --> 00:50:02,280
afraid of fire cam fire will keep them

1150
00:50:11,269 --> 00:50:08,400
away they can't speak as we can but they

1151
00:50:15,259 --> 00:50:11,279
want to they they see

1152
00:50:18,709 --> 00:50:15,269
humans as you know something that they

1153
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:18,719
wish they could attain we have these

1154
00:50:23,299 --> 00:50:20,640
special skills of speaking and

1155
00:50:25,370 --> 00:50:23,309
interaction we're wearing clothes and

1156
00:50:29,479 --> 00:50:25,380
things one of the things one of the

1157
00:50:33,559 --> 00:50:29,489
stories to in Nepal is that the yetis

1158
00:50:36,579 --> 00:50:33,569
want to imitate humans a famous story

1159
00:50:40,099 --> 00:50:36,589
that's told in both Bhutan and Nepal is

1160
00:50:42,890 --> 00:50:40,109
of some yetis that are annoying some

1161
00:50:45,259 --> 00:50:42,900
remote village and so what the villagers

1162
00:50:46,939 --> 00:50:45,269
do to get rid of them and they know the

1163
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:46,949
yetis are watching them they have a big

1164
00:50:54,949 --> 00:50:51,169
festival and they make a big cauldron of

1165
00:50:56,769 --> 00:50:54,959
beer and they drink the beer and they're

1166
00:51:00,459 --> 00:50:56,779
getting drunk and they're dancing and

1167
00:51:03,679 --> 00:51:00,469
then what they did was grab their

1168
00:51:08,149 --> 00:51:03,689
machetes these countries are called in

1169
00:51:09,949 --> 00:51:08,159
Nepal these big sort of knives swords

1170
00:51:12,199 --> 00:51:09,959
they're really big they're for chopping

1171
00:51:15,079 --> 00:51:12,209
woods and stuff and then they pretended

1172
00:51:17,749 --> 00:51:15,089
to attack each other and they were

1173
00:51:20,359 --> 00:51:17,759
hacking each other with their these

1174
00:51:23,029 --> 00:51:20,369
kukris but they were just doing it

1175
00:51:24,979 --> 00:51:23,039
pretend and then they left their kukris

1176
00:51:26,839 --> 00:51:24,989
these swords on the ground and there was

1177
00:51:29,449 --> 00:51:26,849
still plenty of beer and they all went

1178
00:51:32,059 --> 00:51:29,459
to bed it sounds like they're just like

1179
00:51:34,370 --> 00:51:32,069
any normal human as a matter of fact we

1180
00:51:37,549 --> 00:51:34,380
have David Hatcher Childress he's author

1181
00:51:39,499 --> 00:51:37,559
of Yeti Sasquatch and hairy giants our

1182
00:51:42,289 --> 00:51:39,509
co-host this week Nicholas Redfern

1183
00:51:46,550 --> 00:51:42,299
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1184
00:51:52,300 --> 00:51:49,650
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1198
00:52:23,350 --> 00:52:21,710
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1199
00:52:24,910 --> 00:52:23,360
ever wondered why banks stockbrokers

1200
00:52:26,850 --> 00:52:24,920
investment advisers won't talk about

1201
00:52:29,380 --> 00:52:26,860
gold IRAs they've been available since

1202
00:52:31,210 --> 00:52:29,390
1986 yet the financial industry won't

1203
00:52:33,130 --> 00:52:31,220
recognize the value of gold for your

1204
00:52:35,470 --> 00:52:33,140
retirement goal has outperformed paper

1205
00:52:37,060 --> 00:52:35,480
investments yet no word about IRAs if

1206
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:37,070
you would like to have gold for your

1207
00:52:42,580 --> 00:52:40,730
retirement call 866 to 237 don't get

1208
00:53:06,290 --> 00:52:42,590
left behind by rising inflation and low

1209
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:09,810
we return for more time with David

1210
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:11,290
Hatcher Childress

1211
00:53:15,660 --> 00:53:13,330
the author of Yeti Sasquatch and hairy

1212
00:53:17,850 --> 00:53:15,670
giants Chris O'Brien and Nick Redfern

1213
00:53:20,730 --> 00:53:17,860
are the co-hosts I'm gene Steinberg

1214
00:53:23,220 --> 00:53:20,740
you're in the para cast now call me dumb

1215
00:53:25,110 --> 00:53:23,230
about all this stuff David and lots of

1216
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:25,120
people call me that all right I'm not

1217
00:53:31,620 --> 00:53:28,690
understanding the separation here or the

1218
00:53:34,230 --> 00:53:31,630
connection between the Giants of old in

1219
00:53:38,070 --> 00:53:34,240
biblical times that were highly advanced

1220
00:53:39,510 --> 00:53:38,080
people and the Sasquatch Yeti is

1221
00:53:42,090 --> 00:53:39,520
whatever you're talking about here that

1222
00:53:44,820 --> 00:53:42,100
seem to be very primitive barely in the

1223
00:53:47,220 --> 00:53:44,830
caveman stage so educate me once again

1224
00:53:50,940 --> 00:53:47,230
well the first part of the book very

1225
00:53:54,330 --> 00:53:50,950
first chapter is about Giants and and

1226
00:53:58,020 --> 00:53:54,340
then I go on to wild hairy men but

1227
00:54:01,110 --> 00:53:58,030
because yetis and Sasquatch are often

1228
00:54:04,610 --> 00:54:01,120
very tall yeah they're I've in my mind

1229
00:54:08,370 --> 00:54:04,620
they fit into the category of giants

1230
00:54:11,580 --> 00:54:08,380
not all Bigfoot are giants or yetis as

1231
00:54:14,310 --> 00:54:11,590
some scone cases particularly there they

1232
00:54:18,780 --> 00:54:14,320
can only be sometimes only five feet

1233
00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:18,790
tall or so but so yeah my early chapter

1234
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:22,720
was a discussion and exploration of

1235
00:54:29,850 --> 00:54:26,530
giants and you know as I as I talked

1236
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:29,860
about it in there many Giants of your

1237
00:54:35,910 --> 00:54:33,040
are they are humans they're not yetis

1238
00:54:39,830 --> 00:54:35,920
they're not Bigfoot they're they're

1239
00:54:41,670 --> 00:54:39,840
human beings who are unusually tall

1240
00:54:44,550 --> 00:54:41,680
apparently they didn't have six fingers

1241
00:54:48,210 --> 00:54:44,560
on each hand but yeah they're humans

1242
00:54:52,410 --> 00:54:48,220
with they talk they carry swords they

1243
00:54:55,850 --> 00:54:52,420
wear clothes they can deal with fire

1244
00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:55,860
they can be very smart there's you know

1245
00:55:01,920 --> 00:54:58,960
there's nothing really that holds them

1246
00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:01,930
back at some animal or something

1247
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:03,520
continue then I'm going to ask you a

1248
00:55:07,380 --> 00:55:05,200
question go ahead okay but then there's

1249
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:07,390
other Giants and they apparently appear

1250
00:55:12,510 --> 00:55:10,330
to not really be fully human there's

1251
00:55:14,790 --> 00:55:12,520
some kind of eight men and they're

1252
00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:14,800
Giants too and apparently some of them

1253
00:55:19,020 --> 00:55:16,960
also have six fingers on each hand

1254
00:55:22,020 --> 00:55:19,030
you have to wonder a little bit if some

1255
00:55:23,780 --> 00:55:22,030
of the Giants say say like Goliath or

1256
00:55:27,690 --> 00:55:23,790
somebody or some of these guys you

1257
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:27,700
allegedly had six but you know fingers

1258
00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:31,330
or six toes whether they were perhaps

1259
00:55:37,530 --> 00:55:35,440
part human and part Sasquatch or

1260
00:55:41,310 --> 00:55:37,540
something like that or or rather I think

1261
00:55:42,570 --> 00:55:41,320
in many cases human beings particularly

1262
00:55:44,849 --> 00:55:42,580
in the ancient time everything was

1263
00:55:47,099 --> 00:55:44,859
bigger back then and human beings 1020

1264
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:47,109
thousand years ago were taller than us

1265
00:55:51,839 --> 00:55:49,930
they were bigger but they were humans

1266
00:55:54,180 --> 00:55:51,849
they weren't Bigfoot they weren't eight

1267
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:54,190
men they're human beings okay so

1268
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:56,410
therefore would that mean that they were

1269
00:56:00,270 --> 00:55:58,450
the normal-sized people and we are the

1270
00:56:03,390 --> 00:56:00,280
little people maybe somewhere along the

1271
00:56:05,550 --> 00:56:03,400
line the race for whatever reason

1272
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:05,560
interbreeding whatever may develop a

1273
00:56:09,690 --> 00:56:07,450
species that which is much smaller and

1274
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:09,700
didn't live as long a B that's another

1275
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:12,130
issue - these giants supposedly lived

1276
00:56:18,420 --> 00:56:15,010
hundreds of years and look what we have

1277
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:18,430
four score and twenty and then some yes

1278
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:20,170
right and that is one of the stories

1279
00:56:24,900 --> 00:56:23,410
that that these ancient giants like the

1280
00:56:27,050 --> 00:56:24,910
biblical ones yeah they lived hundreds

1281
00:56:30,270 --> 00:56:27,060
of years

1282
00:56:33,780 --> 00:56:30,280
Adamo - sometimes the there's said to be

1283
00:56:37,109 --> 00:56:33,790
you know gigantic Lee huge and tall a 40

1284
00:56:39,540 --> 00:56:37,119
feet 50 feet tall or something there's

1285
00:56:42,210 --> 00:56:39,550
Adam's peak with Adam's footprint in Sri

1286
00:56:45,329 --> 00:56:42,220
Lanka and it's a giant footprint of a

1287
00:56:47,579 --> 00:56:45,339
person who would be you know 30 feet

1288
00:56:52,620 --> 00:56:47,589
tall or something I've been there and

1289
00:56:54,510 --> 00:56:52,630
seen it but and if you are a pilgrim and

1290
00:56:57,870 --> 00:56:54,520
you go there and Muslims and Buddhists

1291
00:57:00,780 --> 00:56:57,880
and Hindus and Christians all go to that

1292
00:57:02,820 --> 00:57:00,790
mountain to see this footprint and they

1293
00:57:05,820 --> 00:57:02,830
in many cases actually believe it's a

1294
00:57:09,060 --> 00:57:05,830
footprint of some forty foot tall you

1295
00:57:11,690 --> 00:57:09,070
know super ancestor of man Clyde I'm

1296
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:11,700
personally not so sure about that myself

1297
00:57:16,770 --> 00:57:15,130
it's probably more just some bizarre

1298
00:57:20,130 --> 00:57:16,780
natural formation that looks like a

1299
00:57:22,140 --> 00:57:20,140
footprint and I've seen it well yes I

1300
00:57:27,089 --> 00:57:22,150
think that there were that in ancient

1301
00:57:29,730 --> 00:57:27,099
times particularly as I said before the

1302
00:57:30,990 --> 00:57:29,740
last ice age everything was bigger

1303
00:57:33,150 --> 00:57:31,000
there were giant

1304
00:57:35,450 --> 00:57:33,160
insects there were woolly mammoths

1305
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:35,460
running around bears were bigger

1306
00:57:40,710 --> 00:57:38,050
saber-toothed cats and lions they were

1307
00:57:42,870 --> 00:57:40,720
all beer cattle were bigger and bison

1308
00:57:46,350 --> 00:57:42,880
and just in general it was everything

1309
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:46,360
was much bigger but then in the in the

1310
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:49,690
last cataclysmic change which was really

1311
00:57:55,230 --> 00:57:52,240
the end of that last ice age was mass

1312
00:57:57,090 --> 00:57:55,240
extinctions many of the giant animals

1313
00:58:00,450 --> 00:57:57,100
were destroyed everything

1314
00:58:04,170 --> 00:58:00,460
got a little bit smaller and I cluding

1315
00:58:05,910 --> 00:58:04,180
humans and so here we are today really

1316
00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:05,920
humans have been getting shorter

1317
00:58:12,060 --> 00:58:07,510
throughout history and the main reason

1318
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:12,070
for that is warfare war is mankind's

1319
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:16,330
favorite sport in ancient times that's

1320
00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:18,730
what they did for fun and it was much

1321
00:58:24,420 --> 00:58:21,910
like a football team you put the big

1322
00:58:28,170 --> 00:58:24,430
guys up front and they all get killed

1323
00:58:30,420 --> 00:58:28,180
so wars basically make people shorter

1324
00:58:32,420 --> 00:58:30,430
because of the tall guys all go to war

1325
00:58:34,860 --> 00:58:32,430
and they all get killed we kill the

1326
00:58:37,230 --> 00:58:34,870
brightest and we bring back the people

1327
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:37,240
who maybe aren't quite as smart and

1328
00:58:41,970 --> 00:58:38,770
aren't quite as tall and don't live

1329
00:58:43,470 --> 00:58:41,980
quite as long we leave them behind well

1330
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:43,480
it would be like that in in the last

1331
00:58:48,090 --> 00:58:45,970
hundred years or so largely because of

1332
00:58:50,430 --> 00:58:48,100
better nutrition people have been

1333
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:50,440
getting taller but I think that's that's

1334
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:52,450
just in the most recent time and it's

1335
00:58:58,560 --> 00:58:56,650
it's because of warfare is not so much

1336
00:59:02,130 --> 00:58:58,570
the big guys up front anymore it's more

1337
00:59:05,220 --> 00:59:02,140
technologically done and people do have

1338
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:05,230
better health care nutrition and whatnot

1339
00:59:10,020 --> 00:59:07,330
and so people are now getting a little

1340
00:59:14,010 --> 00:59:10,030
bit taller but people really in my mind

1341
00:59:16,890 --> 00:59:14,020
were much taller in ancient times now

1342
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:16,900
another thing along us is that it it

1343
00:59:23,060 --> 00:59:20,160
seems that people in ancient times too

1344
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:23,070
interacted more with these eight men

1345
00:59:32,190 --> 00:59:29,290
that Sasquatch yetis almas of the skunk

1346
00:59:34,830 --> 00:59:32,200
Apes a lot not even though is I think

1347
00:59:37,980 --> 00:59:34,840
for those and their animals who want to

1348
00:59:39,900 --> 00:59:37,990
stay clear of humans largely but it may

1349
00:59:41,940 --> 00:59:39,910
be that in in those ancient times there

1350
00:59:46,530 --> 00:59:41,950
was more interaction

1351
00:59:48,990 --> 00:59:46,540
fear and in perhaps even bizarrely also

1352
00:59:51,059 --> 00:59:49,000
some kind of inner marriage there you

1353
00:59:54,180 --> 00:59:51,069
have you have strange stories of even

1354
00:59:55,710 --> 00:59:54,190
battles fought between hairy ape men and

1355
00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:55,720
things like that there was a strange one

1356
01:00:00,569 --> 00:59:58,000
that I have in the book that goes back

1357
01:00:04,020 --> 01:00:00,579
to Alexander's army and a strange battle

1358
01:00:06,569 --> 01:00:04,030
they fought somewhere in western India

1359
01:00:09,329 --> 01:00:06,579
with these people who they described as

1360
01:00:12,539 --> 01:00:09,339
kind of eight men and hairy although

1361
01:00:16,530 --> 01:00:12,549
they had these guys also did have arrows

1362
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:16,540
and and some weapons and things so you

1363
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:20,730
almost wonder if sort of that certain

1364
01:00:30,690 --> 01:00:25,450
Yeti eight men sasquatch were used by

1365
01:00:33,809 --> 01:00:30,700
humans as captives as even guards or

1366
01:00:38,130 --> 01:00:33,819
soldiers there's a famous story in India

1367
01:00:40,530 --> 01:00:38,140
of Hanuman who is Rama's buddy and he's

1368
01:00:42,870 --> 01:00:40,540
just eight men when he does all kinds of

1369
01:00:45,839 --> 01:00:42,880
he's a hero does all kinds of things for

1370
01:00:49,319 --> 01:00:45,849
Rama helps Rama get his captured wife

1371
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:49,329
back they do all these things in the

1372
01:00:56,069 --> 01:00:53,290
more modern mythology there with where

1373
01:00:59,190 --> 01:00:56,079
we have our Star Wars movies and Han

1374
01:01:03,000 --> 01:00:59,200
Solo's big buddy is this Wookiee hairy

1375
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:03,010
ape-man Chewbacca guy who co-pilots his

1376
01:01:13,260 --> 01:01:05,290
spaceship with him but you're back I

1377
01:01:14,940 --> 01:01:13,270
can't talk another language though like

1378
01:01:18,990 --> 01:01:14,950
gibberish to me but what do I know about

1379
01:01:21,299 --> 01:01:19,000
Star Wars and you know after a few

1380
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:21,309
drinks in the space bar he might find

1381
01:01:26,609 --> 01:01:23,200
you know some of the women there looking

1382
01:01:28,140 --> 01:01:26,619
pretty good you know I've got a question

1383
01:01:31,730 --> 01:01:28,150
for a David it's one that I am

1384
01:01:34,109 --> 01:01:31,740
constantly asked whenever the subject of

1385
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:34,119
Sasquatch yetis and hairy giants comes

1386
01:01:39,329 --> 01:01:36,970
up is if there's so many of these things

1387
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:39,339
out there I mean I think we've got them

1388
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:42,010
reported in 49 of 50 states for instance

1389
01:01:45,450 --> 01:01:44,410
just in this country they're spread all

1390
01:01:46,770 --> 01:01:45,460
over the world you have all these

1391
01:01:50,039 --> 01:01:46,780
reports you have all these legends

1392
01:01:55,290 --> 01:01:50,049
stories some more compelling than others

1393
01:01:57,090 --> 01:01:55,300
why isn't there any physical evidence

1394
01:01:59,580 --> 01:01:57,100
that is left behind why don't we find

1395
01:02:02,690 --> 01:01:59,590
dead ones

1396
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:02,700
you know carcasses skeletal remains

1397
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:05,410
physical evidence that would prove

1398
01:02:10,410 --> 01:02:07,690
conclusively that these creatures exist

1399
01:02:12,300 --> 01:02:10,420
there there just seems to be it's devoid

1400
01:02:15,030 --> 01:02:12,310
of any real physical evidence although

1401
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:15,040
you do have a couple of very intriguing

1402
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:18,850
photographs in your book and there are

1403
01:02:24,090 --> 01:02:21,850
some relics I think in Far East but how

1404
01:02:25,770 --> 01:02:24,100
do you answer the the skeptical you know

1405
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:25,780
the first sceptical question that

1406
01:02:30,990 --> 01:02:27,520
generally comes up is how come we can't

1407
01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:31,000
find any of these things remains tell

1408
01:02:33,750 --> 01:02:32,110
you what David you can answer that

1409
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:33,760
question but first I have to tell the

1410
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listeners we have David hatchery

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childress author of Yeti Sasquatch and

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hairy giants the co-hosts are Chris

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O'Brien Nick Redfern I'm gene Steinberg

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States government knows way too much

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about your financial affairs I continue

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unfortunately with the drug and money

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executive order of 1933 some precious

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intervention for this reason Midas

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1521
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us on the power cast this week he's

1522
01:07:37,890 --> 01:07:35,859
author of Yeti Sasquatch and hairy giant

1523
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:37,900
so we're looking at all of them or maybe

1524
01:07:43,559 --> 01:07:40,210
they're all the same thing we're talking

1525
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:43,569
with our co-host Chris O'Brien and Nick

1526
01:07:48,059 --> 01:07:46,210
Redfern I'm gene Steinberg and I'm the

1527
01:07:51,059 --> 01:07:48,069
para cast Chris was asking about

1528
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:51,069
evidence and then we broke for a quick

1529
01:07:54,059 --> 01:07:52,690
station break and some people think

1530
01:07:55,519 --> 01:07:54,069
they're not quick enough and they should

1531
01:07:58,410 --> 01:07:55,529
be quicker we do our best

1532
01:08:00,329 --> 01:07:58,420
David what's your response where's the

1533
01:08:02,309 --> 01:08:00,339
evidence and you know that's a that's a

1534
01:08:04,140 --> 01:08:02,319
really good question I think one of the

1535
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:04,150
most common one it's and it's you know

1536
01:08:08,579 --> 01:08:06,490
why aren't hikers up and you know

1537
01:08:10,019 --> 01:08:08,589
Washington state or something hiking

1538
01:08:12,180 --> 01:08:10,029
down the trail and I don't know dad

1539
01:08:13,769 --> 01:08:12,190
Bigfoot you know lying there and then

1540
01:08:15,289 --> 01:08:13,779
they could of course they whip out their

1541
01:08:18,539 --> 01:08:15,299
cell phones take a lot of good pictures

1542
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:18,549
call the Rangers chopper it out and it

1543
01:08:22,979 --> 01:08:20,290
you know at the Smithsonian or something

1544
01:08:25,499 --> 01:08:22,989
and and here's why that doesn't occur I

1545
01:08:28,229 --> 01:08:25,509
mean if you're walking down the trail in

1546
01:08:30,180 --> 01:08:28,239
in Washington State or Bruce Columbia

1547
01:08:30,769 --> 01:08:30,190
you're not ever going to see a dead

1548
01:08:33,499 --> 01:08:30,779
Bigfoot

1549
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:33,509
I'm a I've hiked a lot and I'm from the

1550
01:08:37,669 --> 01:08:35,250
Pacific Northwest actually I went to

1551
01:08:40,879 --> 01:08:37,679
high school and Montana and I've hiked a

1552
01:08:42,529 --> 01:08:40,889
lot in the Himalayas as well and I can

1553
01:08:44,510 --> 01:08:42,539
tell you in all my time with hiking I've

1554
01:08:47,769 --> 01:08:44,520
never walked down the trail and found a

1555
01:08:50,779 --> 01:08:47,779
dead deer a dead bear dead mountain lion

1556
01:08:52,819 --> 01:08:50,789
I've never found a dead badger I mean

1557
01:08:53,029 --> 01:08:52,829
you just don't really see that kind of

1558
01:08:55,279 --> 01:08:53,039
thing

1559
01:08:59,120 --> 01:08:55,289
bears must die out in the woods

1560
01:09:01,069 --> 01:08:59,130
somewhere and they you know and it may

1561
01:09:03,559 --> 01:09:01,079
well be some hikers have occasionally

1562
01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:03,569
just somehow you know found it out there

1563
01:09:10,430 --> 01:09:06,239
but it doesn't really happen and and

1564
01:09:14,299 --> 01:09:10,440
things things decay quickly if a if some

1565
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:14,309
old Bigfoot died in some heavily bushy

1566
01:09:18,769 --> 01:09:16,650
ravine that's kind of where they they

1567
01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:18,779
live yeah he's not going to become a

1568
01:09:27,799 --> 01:09:24,239
fossil his body will decay and really

1569
01:09:29,959 --> 01:09:27,809
return to dust pretty quick I mean just

1570
01:09:31,399 --> 01:09:29,969
in a matter of days but I mean it's

1571
01:09:33,919 --> 01:09:31,409
certainly possible that somebody could

1572
01:09:37,189 --> 01:09:33,929
encounter a skeleton or something like

1573
01:09:41,450 --> 01:09:37,199
that now as far as that goes and having

1574
01:09:42,979 --> 01:09:41,460
some kind of a body or a relic they I

1575
01:09:46,249 --> 01:09:42,989
mean those things do exist

1576
01:09:49,549 --> 01:09:46,259
there are mummified Yeti hands and

1577
01:09:51,769 --> 01:09:49,559
scalps I've seen them there in the

1578
01:09:54,589 --> 01:09:51,779
Himalayas some of them have been stolen

1579
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:54,599
in fact Edmund Hillary one of the first

1580
01:09:59,270 --> 01:09:56,250
guys to climb Mount Everest with the

1581
01:10:01,640 --> 01:09:59,280
Sherpa Tenzing Norgay he was involved

1582
01:10:04,129 --> 01:10:01,650
himself and having the hair of one of

1583
01:10:06,620 --> 01:10:04,139
these Yeti scalps analyzed and it was

1584
01:10:09,950 --> 01:10:06,630
inconclusive some people some scientists

1585
01:10:12,290 --> 01:10:09,960
said oh well this is you know from it

1586
01:10:14,779 --> 01:10:12,300
was kind of it was the hair was red and

1587
01:10:16,850 --> 01:10:14,789
they thought it was from a Cerro which

1588
01:10:20,419 --> 01:10:16,860
is a kind of a red haired goat that

1589
01:10:23,060 --> 01:10:20,429
lives into that but other studies of it

1590
01:10:25,729 --> 01:10:23,070
as well we're inconclusive and they said

1591
01:10:26,870 --> 01:10:25,739
yeah we we cannot identified it that's

1592
01:10:29,890 --> 01:10:26,880
one of the most important things that's

1593
01:10:33,049 --> 01:10:29,900
been going on in Sumatra and Malaysia

1594
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:33,059
also in Bhutan at this point where

1595
01:10:37,729 --> 01:10:35,730
British teams particularly for some

1596
01:10:39,410 --> 01:10:37,739
reason the British are keen on this and

1597
01:10:41,209 --> 01:10:39,420
the producers always like you Nick you

1598
01:10:44,209 --> 01:10:41,219
know they're they're into mystery

1599
01:10:46,819 --> 01:10:44,219
animals and and the unexplained

1600
01:10:49,370 --> 01:10:46,829
they want proof and trying to get hair

1601
01:10:51,169 --> 01:10:49,380
samples and blood samples from these

1602
01:10:55,100 --> 01:10:51,179
things it's key and that's exactly what

1603
01:10:57,109 --> 01:10:55,110
they're doing the kind of traps that I'm

1604
01:10:59,209 --> 01:10:57,119
aware of that people use who are

1605
01:11:02,750 --> 01:10:59,219
basically these monster hunters trying

1606
01:11:07,609 --> 01:11:02,760
to get hair of Bigfoot and some blood is

1607
01:11:12,290 --> 01:11:07,619
to set up of a say a chicken and you put

1608
01:11:14,750 --> 01:11:12,300
nails and with wood and something that

1609
01:11:16,850 --> 01:11:14,760
they want to grab and the idea is that

1610
01:11:19,310 --> 01:11:16,860
when they're grabbing a chicken off of a

1611
01:11:23,089 --> 01:11:19,320
tree or some pole that you've put up

1612
01:11:26,779 --> 01:11:23,099
that you're able to - they scratch

1613
01:11:30,919 --> 01:11:26,789
themselves and what happens is they they

1614
01:11:33,739 --> 01:11:30,929
leave some hair and blood on these nails

1615
01:11:35,540 --> 01:11:33,749
and spikes that you put there and that's

1616
01:11:38,060 --> 01:11:35,550
what you can use that then you can study

1617
01:11:40,219 --> 01:11:38,070
that here and and ideally that blood and

1618
01:11:42,919 --> 01:11:40,229
and that's what they've done and they've

1619
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:42,929
basically found hair samples that they

1620
01:11:49,459 --> 01:11:45,690
can't identify from any known animal and

1621
01:11:52,069 --> 01:11:49,469
that would basically be evidence of a

1622
01:11:55,310 --> 01:11:52,079
sort that yes there is an unknown animal

1623
01:11:59,359 --> 01:11:55,320
out there he is some kind of ape man

1624
01:12:01,969 --> 01:11:59,369
he's got red hair he you know he's eight

1625
01:12:04,669 --> 01:12:01,979
feet tall he's he's that and so you're

1626
01:12:06,830 --> 01:12:04,679
finding that evidence now on top of all

1627
01:12:09,979 --> 01:12:06,840
that we have some of the really strange

1628
01:12:12,859 --> 01:12:09,989
stories of actual bodies including the

1629
01:12:14,660 --> 01:12:12,869
Minnesota Iceman that was exhibited for

1630
01:12:16,969 --> 01:12:14,670
some years Ivan Keith Sanderson and

1631
01:12:19,009 --> 01:12:16,979
Bernard who Bowman the famous Belgian

1632
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:19,019
Tripel zoologist they both studied the

1633
01:12:22,339 --> 01:12:21,690
Iceman for a couple of days up in

1634
01:12:25,279 --> 01:12:22,349
Minnesota

1635
01:12:27,770 --> 01:12:25,289
he's encased in eyes but they both and

1636
01:12:31,969 --> 01:12:27,780
then they both concluded that this

1637
01:12:34,700 --> 01:12:31,979
Iceman was real that it wasn't some wax

1638
01:12:37,790 --> 01:12:34,710
dummy or some kind of Hollywood model

1639
01:12:40,549 --> 01:12:37,800
frozen that it was completely real and

1640
01:12:43,669 --> 01:12:40,559
that the hair on it and even with the

1641
01:12:45,919 --> 01:12:43,679
Iceman he had a he had anakena so that

1642
01:12:48,319 --> 01:12:45,929
they could look at an other park he's

1643
01:12:51,709 --> 01:12:48,329
been shot through the head and it wasn't

1644
01:12:53,930 --> 01:12:51,719
until the FBI got involved in that case

1645
01:12:55,370 --> 01:12:53,940
and because he had been shot and

1646
01:12:58,010 --> 01:12:55,380
and that was one of the things with the

1647
01:13:01,129 --> 01:12:58,020
Minnesota Iceman he had taken a bullet

1648
01:13:02,870 --> 01:13:01,139
through one eye and so it is one eye was

1649
01:13:05,090 --> 01:13:02,880
missing because it had caused a bullet

1650
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:05,100
it entered the head so the FBI at one

1651
01:13:11,419 --> 01:13:08,010
point wanted to investigate it to see if

1652
01:13:13,910 --> 01:13:11,429
some murder had taken place in Minnesota

1653
01:13:15,860 --> 01:13:13,920
or wherever the Minnesota Ice Man was

1654
01:13:17,750 --> 01:13:15,870
originally from and that's when he

1655
01:13:20,180 --> 01:13:17,760
disappeared and at that point the

1656
01:13:21,379 --> 01:13:20,190
Minnesota Iceman vanished and we don't

1657
01:13:24,470 --> 01:13:21,389
know what happened to it

1658
01:13:27,410 --> 01:13:24,480
it's thought now that the Minnesota

1659
01:13:29,780 --> 01:13:27,420
Iceman came from Southeast Asia and from

1660
01:13:32,540 --> 01:13:29,790
even Vietnam and there's this there's a

1661
01:13:34,669 --> 01:13:32,550
special Park in Vietnam the high

1662
01:13:37,340 --> 01:13:34,679
mountains there along the Cambodian

1663
01:13:40,939 --> 01:13:37,350
border and it is known as a place for

1664
01:13:42,709 --> 01:13:40,949
the Vietnamese Bigfoot or wild man and

1665
01:13:45,140 --> 01:13:42,719
they think it might have come from there

1666
01:13:49,580 --> 01:13:45,150
now I'm going to avoid the jokes David

1667
01:13:50,810 --> 01:13:49,590
about the Iceman Cometh and go I think

1668
01:13:54,500 --> 01:13:50,820
people are going to say that's pathetic

1669
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:54,510
humor okay so knowing this that it's so

1670
01:13:58,520 --> 01:13:56,489
hard to get this evidence except for

1671
01:14:00,200 --> 01:13:58,530
occasionally we have these fossil or

1672
01:14:02,660 --> 01:14:00,210
these skeletal remains

1673
01:14:03,979 --> 01:14:02,670
where are they is in no place around the

1674
01:14:05,930 --> 01:14:03,989
world where all this evidence is

1675
01:14:08,510 --> 01:14:05,940
collected so scientists can look it over

1676
01:14:10,729 --> 01:14:08,520
and see what's going on now that's

1677
01:14:12,590 --> 01:14:10,739
another question here and I've and I

1678
01:14:16,370 --> 01:14:12,600
didn't include this story in my book

1679
01:14:19,010 --> 01:14:16,380
actually but as an archaeologist and and

1680
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:19,020
basically you know most of my research

1681
01:14:24,140 --> 01:14:21,449
is its archaeological rather than

1682
01:14:26,030 --> 01:14:24,150
cryptozoological an America logical

1683
01:14:28,070 --> 01:14:26,040
research I've finally come to the

1684
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:28,080
conclusion over time but they're

1685
01:14:33,410 --> 01:14:31,050
genuinely our archaeological cover-ups

1686
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:33,420
and the things are suppressed evidence

1687
01:14:37,700 --> 01:14:35,730
comes out that's which sort of change

1688
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:37,710
history and one way or another and

1689
01:14:43,250 --> 01:14:40,290
powers-that-be for various reasons

1690
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:43,260
decide to suppress evidence I've come to

1691
01:14:48,590 --> 01:14:46,050
the conclusion that with Bigfoot there

1692
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:48,600
is something like that also going on

1693
01:14:56,419 --> 01:14:52,290
that even I've been told by other people

1694
01:14:59,209 --> 01:14:56,429
who've been very close to Bigfoot areas

1695
01:15:02,470 --> 01:14:59,219
and studied them over time that local

1696
01:15:06,010 --> 01:15:02,480
Rangers and other wildlife officials

1697
01:15:07,250 --> 01:15:06,020
have kind of you know with a wink

1698
01:15:10,339 --> 01:15:07,260
acknowledged

1699
01:15:13,279 --> 01:15:10,349
that these critters are out there that

1700
01:15:17,359 --> 01:15:13,289
they know about them they're sort of

1701
01:15:20,029 --> 01:15:17,369
quasi protected in that sense Rangers

1702
01:15:21,740 --> 01:15:20,039
will sometimes tell people who they

1703
01:15:25,609 --> 01:15:21,750
think are out there hunting for Bigfoot

1704
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:25,619
that they shouldn't be shooting at these

1705
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:27,449
you know Harry mandates that they might

1706
01:15:31,430 --> 01:15:29,489
see I'll tell you what let's pick up on

1707
01:15:33,709 --> 01:15:31,440
that in the next section the cover-up

1708
01:15:34,370 --> 01:15:33,719
about the information proof about

1709
01:15:36,290 --> 01:15:34,380
Bigfoot

1710
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:36,300
David Hatcher Childress joins us the

1711
01:15:40,759 --> 01:15:38,610
book is Yeti Sasquatch and hairy giants

1712
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our co-host Chris O'Brien Nicholas

1713
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Redfern I'm gene Steinberg you're in is

1714
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there a secret UFO agenda do strange

1715
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creatures of the mind roam the earth is

1716
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1757
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1758
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you're out and about whistles mace you

1759
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name it but for real peace of mind for

1760
01:18:00,720 --> 01:17:58,480
parents students and children you need

1761
01:18:04,770 --> 01:18:00,730
an eye safe bag we heard a loud noise

1762
01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:04,780
and I can see a flashing in the backpack

1763
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:06,310
the sound was different than a car alarm

1764
01:18:10,140 --> 01:18:08,650
so it was a different sound so we looked

1765
01:18:12,420 --> 01:18:10,150
to see what it was I think it's a great

1766
01:18:14,340 --> 01:18:12,430
idea introducing the eye safe bag a

1767
01:18:16,860 --> 01:18:14,350
backpack that looks normal until you

1768
01:18:18,450 --> 01:18:16,870
pull the pinch the I say bag emits two

1769
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powerful sirens and a high intensity

1770
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strobe lights Amal taneous Lee to

1771
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attract a median know having the I safe

1772
01:18:25,580 --> 01:18:24,130
bag gives me a feeling of being safe

1773
01:18:28,110 --> 01:18:25,590
because I know when I pull the alarm

1774
01:18:30,180 --> 01:18:28,120
people will hear it and they'll come and

1775
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help me for mobile personal security get

1776
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the I safe bag and I safe bags calm

1777
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that's the letter I sa Fe bags calm i

1778
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safe bags calm I think God that she had

1779
01:18:43,050 --> 01:18:41,020
that backpack and she had enough sense

1780
01:18:45,330 --> 01:18:43,060
to use it it's like having a bodyguard

1781
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with you all the time the I safe bag the

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patented bag with a built-in alarm

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1785
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1786
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make your own fuel with revenuer calm

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laughs equality still from revenue or

1788
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comm and our free book included with

1789
01:19:06,180 --> 01:19:03,640
every still is all you need to beat the

1790
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high cost of gas and stop dependence on

1791
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foreign oil find out how easy it is to

1792
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legally make your own alcohol fuel at re

1793
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1794
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four one seven three revenue or com fine

1795
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quality alcohol stills did somebody say

1796
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:22,330
stills

1797
01:19:26,670 --> 01:19:24,130
that's how grand Pappy made its own sour

1798
01:19:28,890 --> 01:19:26,680
mash and you can to revenuer stills can

1799
01:19:31,110 --> 01:19:28,900
be used to make Brandy's Lakers whiskey

1800
01:19:32,970 --> 01:19:31,120
vodka and more all perfectly legal with

1801
01:19:35,010 --> 01:19:32,980
a permit you should check into having

1802
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your own revenue are still at revenue

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com that's re ven oor dot-com or call

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1806
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or com find quality and alcohol stills

1807
01:20:00,700 --> 01:19:54,450
tired of searching for great talk radio

1808
01:20:30,370 --> 01:20:23,330
[Music]

1809
01:20:32,740 --> 01:20:30,380
David Hatcher Childress joining us this

1810
01:20:34,959 --> 01:20:32,750
week author of Yeti Sasquatch and hairy

1811
01:20:37,180 --> 01:20:34,969
giants I'm gene Steinberg you're in the

1812
01:20:39,100 --> 01:20:37,190
para cast the co-hosts are Chris O'Brien

1813
01:20:40,510 --> 01:20:39,110
and Nick Redfern before I turn it over

1814
01:20:43,330 --> 01:20:40,520
to Nick I'm gonna ask you about that

1815
01:20:45,430 --> 01:20:43,340
okay so you're saying David this is an

1816
01:20:46,900 --> 01:20:45,440
unofficial cover up is there an official

1817
01:20:49,180 --> 01:20:46,910
cover up is there anything that we could

1818
01:20:51,910 --> 01:20:49,190
base well right I mean I think it's both

1819
01:20:54,850 --> 01:20:51,920
there is an unofficial cover up where

1820
01:20:56,950 --> 01:20:54,860
the local Rangers and stuff just don't

1821
01:20:59,439 --> 01:20:56,960
wanna get involved it's a giant can of

1822
01:21:01,689 --> 01:20:59,449
worms they don't want to open they don't

1823
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:01,699
want people shooting Bigfoot you know in

1824
01:21:06,189 --> 01:21:04,250
their part of the forest and actually

1825
01:21:07,419 --> 01:21:06,199
tell them you know not to do it but

1826
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:07,429
here's a story that I thought was very

1827
01:21:11,830 --> 01:21:10,010
interesting and I as I said I did not

1828
01:21:13,870 --> 01:21:11,840
include it in the book and came across

1829
01:21:15,790 --> 01:21:13,880
it you know fairly recently but it was

1830
01:21:18,150 --> 01:21:15,800
particularly fascinating to me I was on

1831
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:18,160
the internet and it was a it was a forum

1832
01:21:24,430 --> 01:21:21,890
talking about exactly this evidence for

1833
01:21:27,490 --> 01:21:24,440
Bigfoot why there's not and a guy was on

1834
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:27,500
the forum basically gave this story and

1835
01:21:34,780 --> 01:21:29,690
that it was after Mount Saint Helens

1836
01:21:36,850 --> 01:21:34,790
blew up in Oregon and within 1982 or

1837
01:21:38,620 --> 01:21:36,860
something what happened there on one

1838
01:21:41,500 --> 01:21:38,630
side of Mount st. Helens and and this is

1839
01:21:43,570 --> 01:21:41,510
a very famous Bigfoot area and a number

1840
01:21:46,060 --> 01:21:43,580
of the most famous Bigfoot incidents

1841
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:46,070
happened around there but what when the

1842
01:21:56,229 --> 01:21:51,730
mountain blew up this giant wave of

1843
01:22:02,050 --> 01:21:56,239
superhot they call it pyroclastic flow

1844
01:22:05,410 --> 01:22:02,060
of just gas and fire and lava and it

1845
01:22:08,380 --> 01:22:05,420
pours down the mountain as a like the

1846
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:08,390
blast from an explosion and it totally

1847
01:22:15,090 --> 01:22:11,290
destroys everything and its wake and

1848
01:22:18,070 --> 01:22:15,100
animals are fried to a crisp and

1849
01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:18,080
instantly and that after all this

1850
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:21,110
happened what this man was claiming was

1851
01:22:27,370 --> 01:22:24,890
that he saw a cleanup operation on one

1852
01:22:30,209 --> 01:22:27,380
side of Mount st. Helens involving the

1853
01:22:32,879 --> 01:22:30,219
army they had helicopters and things and

1854
01:22:35,759 --> 01:22:32,889
they were removing all of these burned

1855
01:22:38,939 --> 01:22:35,769
dead animals from the area which

1856
01:22:44,299 --> 01:22:38,949
included deer and bear and he claimed

1857
01:22:47,729 --> 01:22:44,309
that he saw them also rooting dead

1858
01:22:51,259 --> 01:22:47,739
Sasquatch on helicopters who had also

1859
01:22:54,209 --> 01:22:51,269
been destroyed and burned killed in this

1860
01:22:56,189 --> 01:22:54,219
pyroclastic flow and that they were also

1861
01:22:58,319 --> 01:22:56,199
loading them onto these helicopters and

1862
01:23:01,620 --> 01:22:58,329
taking them you know away to some place

1863
01:23:04,979 --> 01:23:01,630
and that here were officials he was

1864
01:23:06,359 --> 01:23:04,989
claiming you know we're involved I mean

1865
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:06,369
it's literally the government you know

1866
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:09,130
and it they they having bodies of these

1867
01:23:13,620 --> 01:23:11,650
burned Bigfoot and stuff what's really

1868
01:23:15,629 --> 01:23:13,630
fascinating with that where you get into

1869
01:23:18,390 --> 01:23:15,639
the Minnesota Iceman these suppose it

1870
01:23:21,319 --> 01:23:18,400
burn bodies of a Bigfoot from Oregon and

1871
01:23:24,779 --> 01:23:21,329
stuff like that is that here now the

1872
01:23:27,390 --> 01:23:24,789
American government actually has got

1873
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:27,400
it's not a living Bigfoot they've got

1874
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:29,530
some dead ones you know I won't get into

1875
01:23:34,979 --> 01:23:32,530
this more detail David okay it is

1876
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:34,989
claimed so how do we verify the claim

1877
01:23:40,770 --> 01:23:38,530
boy I don't know I don't think we can we

1878
01:23:42,810 --> 01:23:40,780
would at some point I think what would

1879
01:23:44,879 --> 01:23:42,820
happen and hopefully it wouldn't be a

1880
01:23:46,859 --> 01:23:44,889
hoax like was it last year was the

1881
01:23:48,660 --> 01:23:46,869
famous hopes where there they had these

1882
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:48,670
guys in Georgia and they were they were

1883
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:51,010
policemen in fact claim that they had

1884
01:23:58,859 --> 01:23:53,530
you know shot Bigfoot no they had him in

1885
01:24:00,689 --> 01:23:58,869
a freezer was a big publicity conference

1886
01:24:03,839 --> 01:24:00,699
and everything for it or the news was

1887
01:24:06,270 --> 01:24:03,849
there and supposedly some Indiana

1888
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:06,280
businessman had paid forty thousand

1889
01:24:12,029 --> 01:24:08,530
dollars or something for this dad

1890
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:12,039
Bigfoot and so money money had changed

1891
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:13,449
hands and everything and it was all a

1892
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:16,960
hoax and came down people were

1893
01:24:22,500 --> 01:24:20,170
embarrassed you know the silly season of

1894
01:24:25,589 --> 01:24:22,510
the news you know got a story for a day

1895
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:25,599
or two but what would eventually happen

1896
01:24:30,390 --> 01:24:27,130
and I think that's what's interesting

1897
01:24:32,370 --> 01:24:30,400
about this story in June from North

1898
01:24:35,430 --> 01:24:32,380
Carolina where this mountain man

1899
01:24:38,009 --> 01:24:35,440
basically you know had a confrontation

1900
01:24:40,109 --> 01:24:38,019
with this ten-foot tall white haired

1901
01:24:41,969 --> 01:24:40,119
Bigfoot on his property in North

1902
01:24:44,250 --> 01:24:41,979
Carolina the police got involved the

1903
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:44,260
police also acknowledged

1904
01:24:48,780 --> 01:24:45,970
there had been other reports a Bigfoot

1905
01:24:51,390 --> 01:24:48,790
there this mountain man had no reason to

1906
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:51,400
just make up stories like this that to

1907
01:24:55,710 --> 01:24:53,650
me it totally seemed credible well one

1908
01:24:58,950 --> 01:24:55,720
of the things he didn't have was a cell

1909
01:25:01,320 --> 01:24:58,960
phone or a camera I mean uh now if his

1910
01:25:03,090 --> 01:25:01,330
teenage daughter had been with him she

1911
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:03,100
would have immediately with the camera

1912
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:05,170
out of her pocket as every teenager has

1913
01:25:10,590 --> 01:25:07,570
now and taken video footage and

1914
01:25:12,180 --> 01:25:10,600
broad-daylight others so you know ten

1915
01:25:13,770 --> 01:25:12,190
foot tall Bigfoot's supposedly and

1916
01:25:16,980 --> 01:25:13,780
that's what's happening now is that

1917
01:25:20,010 --> 01:25:16,990
people have cameras everybody is

1918
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carrying a cell phone camera with them

1919
01:25:25,410 --> 01:25:23,200
all the time every you know thing that

1920
01:25:27,630 --> 01:25:25,420
happens to them they're able to video it

1921
01:25:30,870 --> 01:25:27,640
what's also happening and I talk about

1922
01:25:33,650 --> 01:25:30,880
this in my book as well is they're now

1923
01:25:37,110 --> 01:25:33,660
coming out with these very affordable

1924
01:25:38,940 --> 01:25:37,120
wildlife cameras that are fixed and you

1925
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:38,950
put them on a tree or something like

1926
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:42,130
that and walk away and then come back a

1927
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:44,770
few days later and it will take photos

1928
01:25:49,980 --> 01:25:47,770
of you know the wildlife that along the

1929
01:25:51,450 --> 01:25:49,990
trail where you put it and people are

1930
01:25:53,310 --> 01:25:51,460
doing this you can now buy them through

1931
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catalogues of National Geographic and

1932
01:25:56,820 --> 01:25:54,400
stuff they're very affordable these

1933
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cameras and this is a new thing but when

1934
01:26:02,490 --> 01:25:59,650
people set up these cameras and this

1935
01:26:04,530 --> 01:26:02,500
happened a year ago in Kentucky where

1936
01:26:06,750 --> 01:26:04,540
this guy put a camera like that in his

1937
01:26:09,480 --> 01:26:06,760
backyard and he thought oh I'll get some

1938
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cute pictures of raccoons and things

1939
01:26:14,460 --> 01:26:12,040
like that and then when he looked at the

1940
01:26:18,780 --> 01:26:14,470
pictures on his camera there was this

1941
01:26:21,630 --> 01:26:18,790
gorilla sitting in his you know garden

1942
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:21,640
in this remote rural area of Kentucky he

1943
01:26:26,100 --> 01:26:23,890
then showed it to wildlife experts and

1944
01:26:27,780 --> 01:26:26,110
he said can you explain this you know

1945
01:26:29,490 --> 01:26:27,790
what animal is this and they course they

1946
01:26:32,220 --> 01:26:29,500
couldn't explain it and they said well

1947
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:32,230
it looks like there's a gorilla you know

1948
01:26:36,780 --> 01:26:35,050
in your backyard and and but we of

1949
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:36,790
course there are no gorillas and around

1950
01:26:42,330 --> 01:26:39,930
here so we can't explain this and this

1951
01:26:44,250 --> 01:26:42,340
also got a lot of attention that photo

1952
01:26:46,860 --> 01:26:44,260
was in my book and it was called the

1953
01:26:48,990 --> 01:26:46,870
backyard Bigfoot what so this is all

1954
01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:49,000
kind of new it's and what's new about it

1955
01:26:55,410 --> 01:26:53,110
is that people have cameras all the time

1956
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:55,420
and weird what's happening is we're

1957
01:26:59,919 --> 01:26:56,570
getting many men

1958
01:27:01,510 --> 01:26:59,929
more pictures of Bigfoot now the

1959
01:27:03,910 --> 01:27:01,520
ultimate video cameras there's

1960
01:27:07,300 --> 01:27:03,920
interesting footage that came out of

1961
01:27:10,810 --> 01:27:07,310
Poland also about a year ago and they

1962
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:10,820
they filmed this Bigfoot that in this

1963
01:27:15,879 --> 01:27:14,210
remote mountain area and it the footage

1964
01:27:18,669 --> 01:27:15,889
is on the internet it's interesting to

1965
01:27:21,490 --> 01:27:18,679
watch it's daylight footage and as you

1966
01:27:23,950 --> 01:27:21,500
watch it I mean either it's a man in a

1967
01:27:26,109 --> 01:27:23,960
Bigfoot costume running around in this

1968
01:27:28,689 --> 01:27:26,119
remote mountain area Poland or it's some

1969
01:27:30,250 --> 01:27:28,699
kind of hairy ape-man of course if you

1970
01:27:32,740 --> 01:27:30,260
see somebody from a distance how do you

1971
01:27:34,660 --> 01:27:32,750
know it's not just trying to create some

1972
01:27:39,129 --> 01:27:34,670
kind of Hollywood style effect with a

1973
01:27:41,260 --> 01:27:39,139
guy in a suit well right and I mean this

1974
01:27:43,569 --> 01:27:41,270
is what happens with a lot of the

1975
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:43,579
Bigfoot photos and and video footage

1976
01:27:48,490 --> 01:27:45,770
that's coming out now the same with some

1977
01:27:50,169 --> 01:27:48,500
of the relics like the Yeti sickle scalp

1978
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:50,179
and other stuff like that it's in

1979
01:27:55,919 --> 01:27:52,610
monasteries and Nepal or whatnot and

1980
01:28:00,010 --> 01:27:55,929
that's that I mean either it's a real

1981
01:28:02,589 --> 01:28:00,020
Bigfoot Sasquatch or Yeti any photos or

1982
01:28:08,319 --> 01:28:02,599
the scalp or the hand or they're real or

1983
01:28:10,569 --> 01:28:08,329
I mean someone is faking it and you in

1984
01:28:13,930 --> 01:28:10,579
my mind you there are some fakes there's

1985
01:28:16,180 --> 01:28:13,940
there's no doubt about that but as I've

1986
01:28:18,790 --> 01:28:16,190
researched it yeah the overwhelming

1987
01:28:20,919 --> 01:28:18,800
evidence to me is that it's real and

1988
01:28:23,919 --> 01:28:20,929
that people are not faking it and it

1989
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:23,929
except in a few cases it's really not

1990
01:28:27,879 --> 01:28:25,610
worth while for people to fake this

1991
01:28:29,979 --> 01:28:27,889
stuff and photos because it really all

1992
01:28:31,689 --> 01:28:29,989
of the others bring them ridicule and

1993
01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:31,699
their friends start to question their

1994
01:28:38,169 --> 01:28:35,449
judgment and think that you know they're

1995
01:28:40,839 --> 01:28:38,179
stupid or are dumb yeah you you really

1996
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:40,849
think you saw a Bigfoot well you know

1997
01:28:46,510 --> 01:28:44,210
you're an idiot but a lot of people will

1998
01:28:48,819 --> 01:28:46,520
stand their ground and say well maybe

1999
01:28:52,990 --> 01:28:48,829
I'm an idiot but I know what I saw what

2000
01:28:55,689 --> 01:28:53,000
most people explain of yetis and in fact

2001
01:28:57,490 --> 01:28:55,699
the famous Mountaineer Reinhold Meisner

2002
01:28:59,410 --> 01:28:57,500
from Austria

2003
01:29:02,410 --> 01:28:59,420
he's one of the greatest Mountaineers in

2004
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:02,420
the world he wrote a book called my

2005
01:29:07,959 --> 01:29:05,449
quest for the Yeti and because he's

2006
01:29:09,189 --> 01:29:07,969
really probably the world's most famous

2007
01:29:10,930 --> 01:29:09,199
Mountaineer

2008
01:29:13,689 --> 01:29:10,940
this book was published by major

2009
01:29:15,870 --> 01:29:13,699
publishers different languages I've got

2010
01:29:19,839 --> 01:29:15,880
copies of it it's an interesting read

2011
01:29:24,969 --> 01:29:19,849
but in that book he largely concludes

2012
01:29:27,669 --> 01:29:24,979
that the Yeti of the Himalayas and Japan

2013
01:29:29,109 --> 01:29:27,679
and whatnot is actually a bear I'll tell

2014
01:29:31,419 --> 01:29:29,119
you what we'll get into more of this on

2015
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:31,429
our next section we have David Hatcher

2016
01:29:37,330 --> 01:29:34,010
Childress he's author of yetis Sasquatch

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and hairy giants our co-host this week

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Nicholas Redfern Chris O'Brien I'm gene

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Steinberg you're in Ray Perkins a

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[Music]

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David Hatcher Childress author of Yeti

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Sasquatch and hairy giants our co-hosts

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three men in search of monsters and all

2137
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:33,930
that your man after my own heart

2138
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:37,170
sort of traveling there in search of

2139
01:34:40,490 --> 01:34:38,730
monsters isn't having a good time while

2140
01:34:42,260 --> 01:34:40,500
you do it and with your friends in your

2141
01:34:44,420 --> 01:34:42,270
encounters you know now you just you

2142
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:44,430
ranged across America I mean did you

2143
01:34:49,430 --> 01:34:46,530
have you had any close encounters with

2144
01:34:51,380 --> 01:34:49,440
Ariane Minh well I've had a few weird

2145
01:34:53,390 --> 01:34:51,390
experiences I mean one of the things

2146
01:34:55,940 --> 01:34:53,400
that doesn't get talked about a lot

2147
01:34:58,490 --> 01:34:55,950
within Bigfoot research circles I think

2148
01:35:00,620 --> 01:34:58,500
it's a valid area research is a

2149
01:35:03,380 --> 01:35:00,630
phenomenon that become known as Bigfoot

2150
01:35:05,630 --> 01:35:03,390
TPS which sounds kind of strange but in

2151
01:35:08,570 --> 01:35:05,640
areas where we get a lot of Bigfoot

2152
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:08,580
reports we get a lot of sightings and

2153
01:35:14,630 --> 01:35:11,610
discoveries of these curious structures

2154
01:35:16,790 --> 01:35:14,640
where very large in some cases branches

2155
01:35:20,300 --> 01:35:16,800
have been richly wrenched off trees and

2156
01:35:23,030 --> 01:35:20,310
placed into pyramid type formations and

2157
01:35:25,550 --> 01:35:23,040
this can be you know 20 30 miles deep

2158
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:25,560
into the woods and they look very very

2159
01:35:28,940 --> 01:35:27,330
curious and as I said there's no attempt

2160
01:35:30,710 --> 01:35:28,950
to saw the ward it looks like something

2161
01:35:32,810 --> 01:35:30,720
very very strong and large to French

2162
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:32,820
these branches off place them into these

2163
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:35,010
formations and wherever you get Bigfoot

2164
01:35:37,460 --> 01:35:35,850
reports

2165
01:35:40,070 --> 01:35:37,470
typically at some point you get these

2166
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:40,080
curious structures and of course some

2167
01:35:44,630 --> 01:35:42,570
people you know speculate as to what

2168
01:35:46,790 --> 01:35:44,640
they are there are theories that they're

2169
01:35:48,860 --> 01:35:46,800
sort of like a territorial marker or

2170
01:35:51,410 --> 01:35:48,870
boundary that these creatures put up I

2171
01:35:54,110 --> 01:35:51,420
guess to warn or attract others of their

2172
01:35:56,270 --> 01:35:54,120
kind and I've actually stumbled quite

2173
01:35:58,550 --> 01:35:56,280
literally across a number of these in

2174
01:36:01,610 --> 01:35:58,560
areas of high Bigfoot activity over the

2175
01:36:03,770 --> 01:36:01,620
years and I think for me that's you know

2176
01:36:06,110 --> 01:36:03,780
it's kind of like an eerie feeling when

2177
01:36:07,730 --> 01:36:06,120
you come across these formation when you

2178
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:07,740
feel like you've almost gone from the

2179
01:36:12,380 --> 01:36:10,290
hunter to the hunted and you get this I

2180
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:12,390
guess sort of very weird sensation of

2181
01:36:16,550 --> 01:36:14,370
being what now whether that's valid or

2182
01:36:19,370 --> 01:36:16,560
not or we just assumed would be watch it

2183
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:19,380
would be a big question but you know

2184
01:36:23,510 --> 01:36:20,970
that a number of experiences like that

2185
01:36:24,390 --> 01:36:23,520
ended and it sort of makes me realize

2186
01:36:26,820 --> 01:36:24,400
that this is a

2187
01:36:29,220 --> 01:36:26,830
even as a strange phenomenon it's a very

2188
01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:29,230
elusive one it's a very real one as well

2189
01:36:32,730 --> 01:36:30,490
and I think when you actually stumble

2190
01:36:34,710 --> 01:36:32,740
across these things yourself then you

2191
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:34,720
begin to realize that it's you know

2192
01:36:38,490 --> 01:36:36,610
something going on and it's not anything

2193
01:36:40,470 --> 01:36:38,500
I made spend in some respects almost

2194
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:40,480
toying with us as well you know I think

2195
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:44,890
that's a really good point and from my

2196
01:36:50,550 --> 01:36:47,650
limited experience and and talking to

2197
01:36:52,770 --> 01:36:50,560
people yeah there's a point where the

2198
01:36:55,910 --> 01:36:52,780
hunter becomes the hunted in these kind

2199
01:36:59,610 --> 01:36:55,920
of things and if you get too close to

2200
01:37:02,820 --> 01:36:59,620
say a Bigfoot nest or layer or wherever

2201
01:37:05,430 --> 01:37:02,830
they are or even just following them

2202
01:37:08,460 --> 01:37:05,440
somehow along you know in the forest

2203
01:37:13,110 --> 01:37:08,470
they they will warn you and they do

2204
01:37:15,750 --> 01:37:13,120
think like oh boy do they just rip a

2205
01:37:18,510 --> 01:37:15,760
giant tree up or break you know I mean

2206
01:37:20,580 --> 01:37:18,520
some superhuman kind of strength to

2207
01:37:23,700 --> 01:37:20,590
these these things are credibly strong

2208
01:37:27,270 --> 01:37:23,710
and yeah you suddenly see in front of

2209
01:37:30,150 --> 01:37:27,280
you a tree just be snapped in half or

2210
01:37:32,670 --> 01:37:30,160
something and it and there's a big crack

2211
01:37:35,490 --> 01:37:32,680
you know and a tree falls down toward

2212
01:37:37,890 --> 01:37:35,500
you or something and it's it's

2213
01:37:41,130 --> 01:37:37,900
frightening and yeah it's something's

2214
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:41,140
going on and you're in thick bush and

2215
01:37:47,850 --> 01:37:43,570
forests but you realize that something

2216
01:37:50,130 --> 01:37:47,860
very big it's watching you it knows

2217
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:50,140
where you are and it doesn't want you

2218
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:53,170
there and yeah you you are frightened

2219
01:37:57,630 --> 01:37:55,570
and you leave if you're smart yeah I

2220
01:37:59,910 --> 01:37:57,640
mean I Kris stuff like this happened to

2221
01:38:02,820 --> 01:37:59,920
you yeah yeah

2222
01:38:04,290 --> 01:38:02,830
it's interesting story I'll try to make

2223
01:38:06,540 --> 01:38:04,300
it brief but a friend of mine and I

2224
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:06,550
wanted to climb around on the you know

2225
01:38:11,850 --> 01:38:09,370
up Mount Shasta in the early spring we

2226
01:38:14,370 --> 01:38:11,860
went up a logging road had to dig

2227
01:38:15,810 --> 01:38:14,380
through some some you know drifts said

2228
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:15,820
it dripped it over the top part of the

2229
01:38:19,890 --> 01:38:18,370
road up near the base of the mountain we

2230
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:19,900
were obviously the first people up there

2231
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:23,050
to you know that spring this would have

2232
01:38:28,230 --> 01:38:26,290
been made in 1979 and we encountered

2233
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:28,240
this real impenetrable hedge I think was

2234
01:38:32,220 --> 01:38:29,890
either Mountain huckleberry or some sort

2235
01:38:35,590 --> 01:38:32,230
of majora a super tough

2236
01:38:38,620 --> 01:38:35,600
resilient Alpine vegetation that was in

2237
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:38,630
an impenetrable hedge and and of course

2238
01:38:43,810 --> 01:38:41,090
in many stories one of the first things

2239
01:38:46,540 --> 01:38:43,820
that that people notice is a very foul

2240
01:38:48,970 --> 01:38:46,550
smell this smelled like human skunk is

2241
01:38:53,220 --> 01:38:48,980
the only way I could describe it it was

2242
01:38:55,870 --> 01:38:53,230
really noxious and we heard this roar

2243
01:38:58,420 --> 01:38:55,880
very hard to describe it kind of a cross

2244
01:39:01,990 --> 01:38:58,430
between a lion's roar and elephant

2245
01:39:03,730 --> 01:39:02,000
trumpeting and a angry locomotive or

2246
01:39:06,610 --> 01:39:03,740
something it was just irritating Lea

2247
01:39:09,490 --> 01:39:06,620
loud and we heard something coming

2248
01:39:10,660 --> 01:39:09,500
through this 8 7 8 foot high hedge and

2249
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:10,670
it was crashing through this

2250
01:39:16,420 --> 01:39:14,570
impenetrable hedge at us and I tell you

2251
01:39:18,070 --> 01:39:16,430
that's probably the most frightening

2252
01:39:20,860 --> 01:39:18,080
experience I've ever had in my life I

2253
01:39:24,030 --> 01:39:20,870
don't we ran down that hill so fast I

2254
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:24,040
don't even remember how he did it but

2255
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:27,770
this is a young based on my limited

2256
01:39:32,590 --> 01:39:29,570
research in this area this is a fairly

2257
01:39:34,030 --> 01:39:32,600
common occurrence we had two years ago

2258
01:39:35,350 --> 01:39:34,040
in the San Luis Valley we had two

2259
01:39:37,060 --> 01:39:35,360
hunters that were going up Costilla

2260
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:37,070
Canyon just below the border with New

2261
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:40,010
Mexico in Colorado and and they were

2262
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:41,570
chased away by a Bigfoot that was

2263
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:43,850
banging a big stick on the ground and

2264
01:39:49,780 --> 01:39:48,050
throwing you know tree parts at them and

2265
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:49,790
chased them away from this particular

2266
01:39:53,980 --> 01:39:51,290
area they were going up to go hunting

2267
01:39:56,710 --> 01:39:53,990
and and one of the things that's one of

2268
01:39:58,900 --> 01:39:56,720
our foreign listeners you know radio

2269
01:40:03,070 --> 01:39:58,910
listeners inform participants asked

2270
01:40:07,140 --> 01:40:03,080
about is the paranormal aspect of

2271
01:40:09,940 --> 01:40:07,150
Bigfoot there's a very interesting story

2272
01:40:13,060 --> 01:40:09,950
in Andrew Coleman's book mothman's

2273
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:13,070
photographer - where he quotes John keel

2274
01:40:19,060 --> 01:40:16,610
who had a witness that saw a Bigfoot

2275
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:19,070
pulling a second Bigfoot out literally

2276
01:40:22,750 --> 01:40:20,690
out of the ground without disturbing the

2277
01:40:25,590 --> 01:40:22,760
soil almost like they were not fully

2278
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:25,600
manifest or something there's other

2279
01:40:30,240 --> 01:40:27,650
accounts of Bigfoot seemingly

2280
01:40:33,250 --> 01:40:30,250
disappearing in front of witnesses

2281
01:40:34,660 --> 01:40:33,260
there's other suggestions in some

2282
01:40:37,740 --> 01:40:34,670
stories that they're able to somehow

2283
01:40:40,300 --> 01:40:37,750
teleport there's also a psychic

2284
01:40:42,580 --> 01:40:40,310
component some people have encountered

2285
01:40:43,799 --> 01:40:42,590
these creatures and felt some sort of

2286
01:40:46,169 --> 01:40:43,809
psychic

2287
01:40:48,089 --> 01:40:46,179
with the creature do you care to comment

2288
01:40:49,319 --> 01:40:48,099
on that if we're dealing I know you

2289
01:40:51,619 --> 01:40:49,329
think that this is a real

2290
01:40:54,809 --> 01:40:51,629
cryptozoological creature but there is a

2291
01:40:56,939 --> 01:40:54,819
body of anecdotal evidence that suggests

2292
01:40:59,159 --> 01:40:56,949
that maybe something also paranormal in

2293
01:41:02,719 --> 01:40:59,169
that these creatures may have some sort

2294
01:41:06,389 --> 01:41:02,729
of abilities to blink in and blink out

2295
01:41:08,689 --> 01:41:06,399
well that is a fascinating area of

2296
01:41:10,679 --> 01:41:08,699
research when it comes to Bigfoot is

2297
01:41:13,759 --> 01:41:10,689
what you're saying this paranormal

2298
01:41:17,939 --> 01:41:13,769
aspect or the interdimensional critters

2299
01:41:22,679 --> 01:41:17,949
there's a few stories that link UFOs

2300
01:41:26,839 --> 01:41:22,689
with Bigfoot and I think particularly

2301
01:41:31,169 --> 01:41:26,849
interesting I've not really found that

2302
01:41:33,899 --> 01:41:31,179
those stories are so widespread they

2303
01:41:35,099 --> 01:41:33,909
they seem to only be a few it's

2304
01:41:37,500 --> 01:41:35,109
something I've asked people to

2305
01:41:40,909 --> 01:41:37,510
particularly people who've had a number

2306
01:41:44,939 --> 01:41:40,919
of close encounters with a Bigfoot

2307
01:41:46,679 --> 01:41:44,949
including farmers especially in Illinois

2308
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:46,689
and other areas of the Midwest where

2309
01:41:50,879 --> 01:41:48,010
people there's there's certain areas

2310
01:41:53,009 --> 01:41:50,889
like around sanik Illinois where it's

2311
01:41:56,279 --> 01:41:53,019
just known that these Bigfoot live and

2312
01:41:58,109 --> 01:41:56,289
and they've and people who encounter

2313
01:42:01,319 --> 01:41:58,119
them all the time it's there's a Lovers

2314
01:42:03,299 --> 01:42:01,329
Lane area there where Bigfoot would peer

2315
01:42:05,579 --> 01:42:03,309
into the backseat of cars and things

2316
01:42:08,579 --> 01:42:05,589
like that actually became a very famous

2317
01:42:12,659 --> 01:42:08,589
story in the Chicago Tribune back in

2318
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:12,669
2003 but when I've asked people to about

2319
01:42:16,559 --> 01:42:14,530
like are they some kind of

2320
01:42:19,619 --> 01:42:16,569
interdimensional creature do they have

2321
01:42:21,839 --> 01:42:19,629
these paranormal powers but people I've

2322
01:42:25,649 --> 01:42:21,849
talked to have overwhelmingly told me

2323
01:42:28,559 --> 01:42:25,659
that they're animals they are like a

2324
01:42:32,189 --> 01:42:28,569
gorilla like an ape they act like them

2325
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:32,199
they they throw rocks they they have to

2326
01:42:38,429 --> 01:42:35,050
eat food they're interested in humans

2327
01:42:41,609 --> 01:42:38,439
and they they have such a keen sense of

2328
01:42:43,889 --> 01:42:41,619
smell that they can they can smell sex

2329
01:42:48,629 --> 01:42:43,899
they can smell women who are

2330
01:42:50,729 --> 01:42:48,639
menstruating or and it just the flow of

2331
01:42:52,199 --> 01:42:50,739
hormones and things like that and that's

2332
01:42:54,239 --> 01:42:52,209
one of the famous stories that having a

2333
01:42:56,909 --> 01:42:54,249
DuPont because of this Lovers Lane is

2334
01:42:57,330 --> 01:42:56,919
that yeah Bigfoot would be attracted at

2335
01:43:00,180 --> 01:42:57,340
least call

2336
01:43:02,399 --> 01:43:00,190
where people were making out or having

2337
01:43:05,070 --> 01:43:02,409
sex and wanted to see what was going on

2338
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:05,080
he could smell it so I don't know I

2339
01:43:12,570 --> 01:43:09,489
my own belief and largely the way I come

2340
01:43:16,370 --> 01:43:12,580
at it in my book is that it is it's a

2341
01:43:19,169 --> 01:43:16,380
cryptozoological thing that there's

2342
01:43:21,660 --> 01:43:19,179
these things are like just like gorillas

2343
01:43:26,100 --> 01:43:21,670
and orangutans and other Apes these

2344
01:43:29,399 --> 01:43:26,110
things are there they're animals and we

2345
01:43:31,430 --> 01:43:29,409
can get DNA we could clone them this is

2346
01:43:35,939 --> 01:43:31,440
I think one of the interesting things of

2347
01:43:39,300 --> 01:43:35,949
the so called possible cover-up of some

2348
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:39,310
of these animals is that US government

2349
01:43:44,970 --> 01:43:42,210
in theory if they've got some dead

2350
01:43:46,530 --> 01:43:44,980
Sasquatch or something that they could

2351
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:46,540
be doing all kinds of stuff they could

2352
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:49,449
clone them they could they could have

2353
01:43:56,220 --> 01:43:52,449
their own captive Sasquatch that they've

2354
01:43:59,790 --> 01:43:56,230
created themselves and you along those

2355
01:44:02,030 --> 01:43:59,800
lines you could perhaps maybe this is

2356
01:44:06,660 --> 01:44:02,040
where the paranormal aspect comes in

2357
01:44:11,189 --> 01:44:06,670
where you have some kind of genetically

2358
01:44:12,810 --> 01:44:11,199
engineered the Sasquatch or something

2359
01:44:15,510 --> 01:44:12,820
and there but they've been trained

2360
01:44:17,129 --> 01:44:15,520
actually by the military I mean it all

2361
01:44:18,660 --> 01:44:17,139
sounds so fantastic and I'll tell you

2362
01:44:20,850 --> 01:44:18,670
what we have to go to the next section

2363
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:20,860
to pursue this David Hatcher Childress

2364
01:44:24,839 --> 01:44:22,570
joining us we're talking about Yeti

2365
01:44:28,709 --> 01:44:24,849
Sasquatch and hairy giants and sounds

2366
01:44:31,109 --> 01:44:28,719
like government intervention to co-host

2367
01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:31,119
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2368
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2386
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2387
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2388
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2389
01:45:22,770 --> 01:45:21,310
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2390
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:22,780
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2391
01:45:25,530 --> 01:45:24,400
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2392
01:45:27,390 --> 01:45:25,540
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2393
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2395
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2396
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2397
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2399
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:47,410
the pair cast the gold standard of

2400
01:45:58,970 --> 01:45:50,770
paranormal radio and now here's gene

2401
01:46:03,150 --> 01:46:01,650
we have another hour to spend with David

2402
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:03,160
Hatcher Childress author of Yeti

2403
01:46:08,640 --> 01:46:06,010
Sasquatch and hairy Giants our co-hosts

2404
01:46:11,550 --> 01:46:08,650
are Chris O'Brien and Nick Redfern I'm

2405
01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:11,560
gene Steinberger in the para cast and I

2406
01:46:16,170 --> 01:46:13,690
guess the question was raised here the

2407
01:46:21,510 --> 01:46:16,180
government knowing about this involved

2408
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:21,520
in genetic engineering of Bigfoot yeah

2409
01:46:27,530 --> 01:46:26,530
it sounds incredible speculate about

2410
01:46:30,690 --> 01:46:27,540
that

2411
01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:30,700
didn't try to wasn't there some sort of

2412
01:46:36,330 --> 01:46:31,930
genetics program where they were gonna

2413
01:46:37,980 --> 01:46:36,340
try to create this primitive super super

2414
01:46:39,660 --> 01:46:37,990
warrior super soldier or something I

2415
01:46:41,970 --> 01:46:39,670
seem to remember reading about that

2416
01:46:44,990 --> 01:46:41,980
some years back do you think the US

2417
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:45,000
government if potentially they do have

2418
01:46:49,500 --> 01:46:46,930
genetic material that they could

2419
01:46:52,770 --> 01:46:49,510
possibly be attempting to clone these

2420
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:52,780
animals or somehow I seem to recall and

2421
01:46:59,760 --> 01:46:56,770
maybe maybe you guys know this story too

2422
01:47:03,750 --> 01:46:59,770
but isn't there seems like there's some

2423
01:47:06,390 --> 01:47:03,760
UFO abduction type story where one of

2424
01:47:08,910 --> 01:47:06,400
the people claimed that he was in some

2425
01:47:11,610 --> 01:47:08,920
like UFO base or something that there

2426
01:47:13,980 --> 01:47:11,620
was a like a Bigfoot in a cage or

2427
01:47:16,140 --> 01:47:13,990
something like that no I think you're

2428
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:16,150
referring to the Clearview case outside

2429
01:47:21,210 --> 01:47:18,250
of the airport's Academy back in the

2430
01:47:25,050 --> 01:47:21,220
late 70s where Air Force officers

2431
01:47:27,210 --> 01:47:25,060
arrived in a saucer and and and talked

2432
01:47:29,460 --> 01:47:27,220
to this particular rancher and his

2433
01:47:31,710 --> 01:47:29,470
family and there was a Bigfoot standing

2434
01:47:35,340 --> 01:47:31,720
nearby holding a box that had blinking

2435
01:47:37,920 --> 01:47:35,350
lights on it and his creature had been

2436
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:37,930
seen by the rancher on a couple of

2437
01:47:41,430 --> 01:47:39,970
occasions prior to this and the Air

2438
01:47:44,220 --> 01:47:41,440
Force claimed that he was under their

2439
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:44,230
control and one of the officers had some

2440
01:47:48,540 --> 01:47:46,330
device on a belt and he hit a button or

2441
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:48,550
a switch and the Bigfoot kind of

2442
01:47:53,340 --> 01:47:50,650
twitched and fell down and dropped the

2443
01:47:55,500 --> 01:47:53,350
box and then he clicked it back on and

2444
01:47:57,690 --> 01:47:55,510
the Bigfoot woke up or something and

2445
01:48:01,890 --> 01:47:57,700
stood back up holding the blinking box

2446
01:48:03,750 --> 01:48:01,900
so I go figure that's wow that's a

2447
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:03,760
pretty interesting story and and so

2448
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:04,690
there you have

2449
01:48:13,470 --> 01:48:09,610
maybe some Bigfoot that's got implanted

2450
01:48:15,780 --> 01:48:13,480
by the military and yeah they can kind

2451
01:48:17,490 --> 01:48:15,790
of mind-control him with some electronic

2452
01:48:20,129 --> 01:48:17,500
gear that they've got you know in the

2453
01:48:23,879 --> 01:48:20,139
back of his brain or something be

2454
01:48:26,129 --> 01:48:23,889
stories like that seem like some great

2455
01:48:28,950 --> 01:48:26,139
be sci-fi movie from the 50s or

2456
01:48:33,410 --> 01:48:28,960
something but but yet I would they say

2457
01:48:38,910 --> 01:48:36,570
for people to just somehow make up some

2458
01:48:41,810 --> 01:48:38,920
utterly bizarre story like that that

2459
01:48:44,220 --> 01:48:41,820
also apparently makes no sense that's

2460
01:48:46,890 --> 01:48:44,230
kind of far-fetched to that people are

2461
01:48:48,660 --> 01:48:46,900
just going to fabricate that I I often

2462
01:48:51,750 --> 01:48:48,670
think that there's something to these

2463
01:48:53,970 --> 01:48:51,760
stories not necessarily exactly what the

2464
01:48:58,979 --> 01:48:53,980
people witnessed maybe but something's

2465
01:49:01,379 --> 01:48:58,989
going on even even with stories like

2466
01:49:04,649 --> 01:49:01,389
that you can have holographic

2467
01:49:08,939 --> 01:49:04,659
projections I believe that the military

2468
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:08,949
does do all kinds of unusual psyops and

2469
01:49:14,459 --> 01:49:12,370
and mind-control type of operations for

2470
01:49:17,010 --> 01:49:14,469
their own you know strange experiments

2471
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:17,020
on people to see how they'll react and

2472
01:49:24,209 --> 01:49:19,570
things like that but I really do not

2473
01:49:26,970 --> 01:49:24,219
discount the idea of the day and I'm

2474
01:49:30,149 --> 01:49:26,980
saying the military or I mean whoever it

2475
01:49:33,169 --> 01:49:30,159
is exactly that they could have you know

2476
01:49:36,410 --> 01:49:33,179
the body's a Bigfoot actual live Bigfoot

2477
01:49:39,180 --> 01:49:36,420
cloned or genetically engineered Bigfoot

2478
01:49:41,310 --> 01:49:39,190
if these animals really exist and I

2479
01:49:43,290 --> 01:49:41,320
believe they do and they are animals

2480
01:49:45,870 --> 01:49:43,300
there's no reason why the military

2481
01:49:49,379 --> 01:49:45,880
couldn't have you know be doing research

2482
01:49:53,129 --> 01:49:49,389
on them themselves I mean they want to

2483
01:49:55,500 --> 01:49:53,139
know this stuff too and it's my opinion

2484
01:49:58,200 --> 01:49:55,510
that many of the things that you guys

2485
01:50:01,620 --> 01:49:58,210
talk about on the pair of cast or within

2486
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:01,630
the military and other covert agencies

2487
01:50:05,700 --> 01:50:03,730
you know that even itself is well known

2488
01:50:06,180 --> 01:50:05,710
to them well they largely keep it a

2489
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:06,190
secret

2490
01:50:09,870 --> 01:50:08,530
okay so if the US government is doing

2491
01:50:12,890 --> 01:50:09,880
this what about other governments are

2492
01:50:16,050 --> 01:50:12,900
they engaged in this kind of trickery

2493
01:50:18,419 --> 01:50:16,060
well yeah I mean they would be innocent

2494
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:18,429
particularly say the Russians

2495
01:50:24,870 --> 01:50:20,770
the Chinese government is well-known to

2496
01:50:30,180 --> 01:50:24,880
be interested in the wild men of China

2497
01:50:31,589 --> 01:50:30,190
and the Russians in fact many of the

2498
01:50:33,990 --> 01:50:31,599
Russian investigators I mean they're

2499
01:50:36,180 --> 01:50:34,000
they're actually part of the government

2500
01:50:38,580 --> 01:50:36,190
who we're doing this and they're Russian

2501
01:50:41,220 --> 01:50:38,590
scientists so the Russians particularly

2502
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:41,230
have always had open mind in when it

2503
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:44,530
comes to paranormal type things

2504
01:50:51,510 --> 01:50:48,730
Bigfoot UFOs even psychic phenomenon and

2505
01:50:53,220 --> 01:50:51,520
even though this say the CIA has done

2506
01:50:56,879 --> 01:50:53,230
psychic experiments and other things

2507
01:50:59,399 --> 01:50:56,889
like that there when stories get out

2508
01:51:02,310 --> 01:50:59,409
into the mainstream media they sort of

2509
01:51:03,810 --> 01:51:02,320
laugh at it and it makes the CIA look

2510
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:03,820
like a bunch of goofballs doing these

2511
01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:06,010
sort of strange experiments but in

2512
01:51:10,290 --> 01:51:07,650
Russia it's taken much more seriously

2513
01:51:13,020 --> 01:51:10,300
and is actually part of the government

2514
01:51:16,830 --> 01:51:13,030
programs the whole strange story of the

2515
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:16,840
Minnesota Iceman which I detail and one

2516
01:51:22,109 --> 01:51:19,449
of the chapters is really weird and the

2517
01:51:22,470 --> 01:51:22,119
more you look into it the stranger it

2518
01:51:25,530 --> 01:51:22,480
gets

2519
01:51:27,959 --> 01:51:25,540
and at one point apparently the

2520
01:51:31,229 --> 01:51:27,969
Vietnamese government was involved in it

2521
01:51:33,660 --> 01:51:31,239
and the military and the the story that

2522
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:33,670
has come out about the Minnesota Iceman

2523
01:51:38,370 --> 01:51:36,010
is that it was from Vietnam and it was

2524
01:51:40,919 --> 01:51:38,380
loaded onto a helicopter it was brought

2525
01:51:44,399 --> 01:51:40,929
back by the military to the United

2526
01:51:46,740 --> 01:51:44,409
States I was in California and it ended

2527
01:51:47,189 --> 01:51:46,750
up in private hands it was encased in

2528
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:47,199
ice

2529
01:51:51,990 --> 01:51:49,330
it was then sent up to Minnesota where

2530
01:51:55,830 --> 01:51:52,000
for basically about a year it was shown

2531
01:51:58,200 --> 01:51:55,840
at these various county fairs and things

2532
01:52:01,320 --> 01:51:58,210
in Minnesota and Wisconsin and then

2533
01:52:03,240 --> 01:52:01,330
suddenly vanished but Ivan T Sanderson

2534
01:52:06,750 --> 01:52:03,250
and bernard heuvelmans you know had a

2535
01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:06,760
chance to really look carefully at the

2536
01:52:12,540 --> 01:52:09,690
Minnesota Iceman at his barn in

2537
01:52:15,060 --> 01:52:12,550
Minnesota before it vanished and they

2538
01:52:18,060 --> 01:52:15,070
concluded that it was a real critter in

2539
01:52:19,830 --> 01:52:18,070
there and not a fake okay vanish David

2540
01:52:22,410 --> 01:52:19,840
in what way they just stopped showing it

2541
01:52:25,220 --> 01:52:22,420
or what yeah what happened to the

2542
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:25,230
Minnesota Iceman was it it was being

2543
01:52:30,490 --> 01:52:29,170
exhibited for a while IVA T Sanderson

2544
01:52:33,340 --> 01:52:30,500
and who

2545
01:52:35,740 --> 01:52:33,350
got to see it and study it and then the

2546
01:52:41,080 --> 01:52:35,750
FBI got involved because it had been

2547
01:52:43,420 --> 01:52:41,090
shot through the eye and I mean it you

2548
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:43,430
know and in fact apparently it had been

2549
01:52:50,770 --> 01:52:45,890
shot by an American soldier or something

2550
01:52:53,229 --> 01:52:50,780
Eternian in Vietnam or and but then it

2551
01:52:56,560 --> 01:52:53,239
vanished and what happened then was a

2552
01:53:00,100 --> 01:52:56,570
fake was put in its place and then

2553
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:00,110
briefly this other Iceman was exhibited

2554
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:02,449
people who looked at it could see that

2555
01:53:07,979 --> 01:53:05,330
it was a fake it was like a wax dummy

2556
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:07,989
inside ice but the original Iceman

2557
01:53:16,060 --> 01:53:11,930
totally disappeared and it apparently

2558
01:53:19,570 --> 01:53:16,070
had been owned by a very wealthy person

2559
01:53:22,540 --> 01:53:19,580
in Los Angeles but you know exactly who

2560
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:22,550
he was and how we got the Iceman where

2561
01:53:28,030 --> 01:53:24,890
it went we don't know and if it's

2562
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:28,040
possible that the government itself

2563
01:53:33,939 --> 01:53:30,410
ended up with the Iceman and if it

2564
01:53:36,970 --> 01:53:33,949
really was a real body as Sanderson and

2565
01:53:40,060 --> 01:53:36,980
Homans believed then it would be

2566
01:53:42,910 --> 01:53:40,070
valuable and certainly the government

2567
01:53:45,340 --> 01:53:42,920
would want it and perhaps got it or else

2568
01:53:48,820 --> 01:53:45,350
it ended up in some like private lab

2569
01:53:50,680 --> 01:53:48,830
where they're studying it and and part

2570
01:53:52,900 --> 01:53:50,690
of it what is so important and and

2571
01:53:57,400 --> 01:53:52,910
rarely talked about in other bigfoot

2572
01:53:59,950 --> 01:53:57,410
books is that having DNA of a sasquatch

2573
01:54:01,720 --> 01:53:59,960
it is important I mean you could do a

2574
01:54:04,030 --> 01:54:01,730
lot with that particularly with the

2575
01:54:06,189 --> 01:54:04,040
technology of cloning or something we

2576
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:06,199
have today and be something to be able

2577
01:54:11,260 --> 01:54:08,570
to try to nail down so how do we nail it

2578
01:54:13,780 --> 01:54:11,270
down David I mean we have the story with

2579
01:54:16,060 --> 01:54:13,790
this disappeared and was replaced by a

2580
01:54:18,310 --> 01:54:16,070
fake before the exhibit withdrawn we

2581
01:54:20,830 --> 01:54:18,320
have all these reports about the

2582
01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:20,840
government involvement how do we nail it

2583
01:54:24,820 --> 01:54:23,330
down and prove any of this stuff make a

2584
01:54:31,870 --> 01:54:24,830
good a request

2585
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:31,880
I think people naturally want proof and

2586
01:54:38,620 --> 01:54:35,690
good proof and I'm like that too so

2587
01:54:41,950 --> 01:54:38,630
photos photographs or Bigfoot are good

2588
01:54:44,020 --> 01:54:41,960
and that's kind of the main thing we

2589
01:54:46,740 --> 01:54:44,030
have now and stories

2590
01:54:49,060 --> 01:54:46,750
getting actual hair and blood samples of

2591
01:54:52,959 --> 01:54:49,070
some of these critters whether it's in

2592
01:54:55,629 --> 01:54:52,969
Bhutan or Sumatra or California or

2593
01:54:59,410 --> 01:54:55,639
whatever I mean that's what we need when

2594
01:55:03,689 --> 01:54:59,420
you look at Roger Patterson famous Bluff

2595
01:55:07,390 --> 01:55:03,699
Creek movie footage and that is perhaps

2596
01:55:10,299 --> 01:55:07,400
you know the best-known evidence really

2597
01:55:13,359 --> 01:55:10,309
of a Bigfoot that we have and that's a

2598
01:55:15,819 --> 01:55:13,369
female to who's walking there and that's

2599
01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:15,829
been studied over and over again there's

2600
01:55:21,220 --> 01:55:18,170
there's whole books just about that

2601
01:55:22,479 --> 01:55:21,230
movie footage and we'll get into that in

2602
01:55:24,790 --> 01:55:22,489
more detail in a moment

2603
01:55:27,490 --> 01:55:24,800
we have David hatchery childress author

2604
01:55:29,140 --> 01:55:27,500
of Yeti Sasquatch and hairy Chinese the

2605
01:55:31,060 --> 01:55:29,150
co-host to Chris O'Brien and Nick

2606
01:55:40,750 --> 01:55:31,070
Redfern and I'm gene Steinberg you're in

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believed that the government is doing a

2639
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2640
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2641
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2642
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2643
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2644
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2645
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inflation or that the dollar wouldn't

2646
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2650
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tanked 30% while gold has risen 300

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2719
02:00:21,709 --> 02:00:19,760
returned with David Hatcher Childress

2720
02:00:25,010 --> 02:00:21,719
we're talking about the abominable

2721
02:00:26,959 --> 02:00:25,020
snowman Yeti Sasquatch hairy Giants

2722
02:00:30,319 --> 02:00:26,969
whatever we have Chris O'Brien

2723
02:00:32,990 --> 02:00:30,329
and Nick Redfern his co-hosts I'm gene

2724
02:00:35,450 --> 02:00:33,000
steinberger in the power cast so maybe

2725
02:00:37,580 --> 02:00:35,460
now because we are getting towards the

2726
02:00:39,350 --> 02:00:37,590
last three segments of the show Chris

2727
02:00:41,299 --> 02:00:39,360
you've accumulated some questions from

2728
02:00:43,879 --> 02:00:41,309
the power cast forums you asked one of

2729
02:00:45,799 --> 02:00:43,889
them and maybe we did pepper David with

2730
02:00:47,660 --> 02:00:45,809
more questions from the forums go ahead

2731
02:00:49,910 --> 02:00:47,670
please well actually David's actually

2732
02:00:52,250 --> 02:00:49,920
done a good job answering several of the

2733
02:00:55,310 --> 02:00:52,260
questions the only one I haven't really

2734
02:00:57,560 --> 02:00:55,320
asked and impressed David on was the

2735
02:01:00,200 --> 02:00:57,570
whole telepathic connection that some

2736
02:01:01,700 --> 02:01:00,210
witnesses have described when they lock

2737
02:01:04,669 --> 02:01:01,710
eyes with these creatures

2738
02:01:06,560 --> 02:01:04,679
I think what's his name Kewanee Jack's

2739
02:01:09,529 --> 02:01:06,570
apart is he wrote a book the psychic

2740
02:01:13,939 --> 02:01:09,539
sasquatch I'm probably butchering his

2741
02:01:15,620 --> 02:01:13,949
name but I seem to remember reading the

2742
02:01:17,990 --> 02:01:15,630
book years ago I seem to remember from

2743
02:01:20,990 --> 02:01:18,000
it that there in his mind that there is

2744
02:01:22,669 --> 02:01:21,000
a fairly intriguing body of evidence it

2745
02:01:24,589 --> 02:01:22,679
would suggest that these creatures do

2746
02:01:26,660 --> 02:01:24,599
have some sort of psychic abilities and

2747
02:01:29,390 --> 02:01:26,670
that some people have been impacted by

2748
02:01:32,419 --> 02:01:29,400
this have you run across this particular

2749
02:01:34,970 --> 02:01:32,429
element your research yeah sure and in

2750
02:01:38,180 --> 02:01:34,980
fact there's a there's a woman in

2751
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:38,190
Wisconsin who's written a book or two

2752
02:01:42,830 --> 02:01:41,010
about Bigfoot and I think one of them's

2753
02:01:45,339 --> 02:01:42,840
called backyard Bigfoot or something

2754
02:01:48,410 --> 02:01:45,349
like that and she claims to have had

2755
02:01:51,919 --> 02:01:48,420
something of a psychic raishin ship with

2756
02:01:54,410 --> 02:01:51,929
this big photo in the winter would come

2757
02:01:56,930 --> 02:01:54,420
by her remote house in the woods of

2758
02:02:00,500 --> 02:01:56,940
Wisconsin and leave footprints and that

2759
02:02:02,790 --> 02:02:00,510
she had you know something of a psychic

2760
02:02:06,210 --> 02:02:02,800
relationship with them

2761
02:02:08,100 --> 02:02:06,220
that's all fine I I feel that people

2762
02:02:09,870 --> 02:02:08,110
have psychic relationships with all

2763
02:02:12,330 --> 02:02:09,880
kinds of animals and and that's always

2764
02:02:15,210 --> 02:02:12,340
fascinating it's no reason why people

2765
02:02:19,040 --> 02:02:15,220
couldn't have some psychic connection

2766
02:02:22,110 --> 02:02:19,050
with Bigfoot - Bigfoot in my mind is

2767
02:02:24,270 --> 02:02:22,120
he's curious about humans and he's not

2768
02:02:31,230 --> 02:02:24,280
really a threat even though there are

2769
02:02:34,590 --> 02:02:31,240
stories of Bigfoot attacking people even

2770
02:02:37,920 --> 02:02:34,600
people being killed by a Bigfoot in the

2771
02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:37,930
Himalayas I can tell you that the whole

2772
02:02:45,570 --> 02:02:42,970
concept of yetis seeing a Yeti having

2773
02:02:47,070 --> 02:02:45,580
some encounter it's a subject that's

2774
02:02:50,070 --> 02:02:47,080
very uncomfortable to the people there

2775
02:02:52,890 --> 02:02:50,080
they don't want to see a Yeti they feel

2776
02:02:56,540 --> 02:02:52,900
it's terrible luck

2777
02:03:00,600 --> 02:02:56,550
even to talk about yetis is bad luck

2778
02:03:03,510 --> 02:03:00,610
people people are reluctant to really

2779
02:03:07,740 --> 02:03:03,520
discuss it in great detail it's it's a

2780
02:03:10,260 --> 02:03:07,750
subject that you should avoid really and

2781
02:03:12,270 --> 02:03:10,270
if you've seen a Yeti and encountered

2782
02:03:15,750 --> 02:03:12,280
one they believe it means you're gonna

2783
02:03:18,390 --> 02:03:15,760
die so you you it's not something you

2784
02:03:21,780 --> 02:03:18,400
want to have happen to you you know that

2785
02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:21,790
said people do still encounter yetis as

2786
02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:24,850
we get more and more sort of people are

2787
02:03:29,280 --> 02:03:27,130
modernized and they forget these state

2788
02:03:32,070 --> 02:03:29,290
superstitions in a sense about yetis and

2789
02:03:34,740 --> 02:03:32,080
they they will talk about it more I

2790
02:03:37,020 --> 02:03:34,750
think but really ultimately I mean what

2791
02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:37,030
I've concluded is that these I mean

2792
02:03:42,500 --> 02:03:39,490
they're animals they're they're they

2793
02:03:47,100 --> 02:03:42,510
have their super strong they've got

2794
02:03:50,610 --> 02:03:47,110
incredibly keen senses they know to

2795
02:03:53,850 --> 02:03:50,620
avoid people if they can but still

2796
02:03:55,710 --> 02:03:53,860
they're curious about people and a lot

2797
02:03:59,340 --> 02:03:55,720
of the stories that are in my book are

2798
02:04:01,710 --> 02:03:59,350
of Yeti and Bigfoot peeping toms I mean

2799
02:04:05,820 --> 02:04:01,720
they just what happened here in Arizona

2800
02:04:08,250 --> 02:04:05,830
and where you know where I'm speaking

2801
02:04:11,550 --> 02:04:08,260
right now on the White Mountain Apache

2802
02:04:13,830 --> 02:04:11,560
reservation in 2005 this family

2803
02:04:15,100 --> 02:04:13,840
there they were Apache Indians they

2804
02:04:17,740 --> 02:04:15,110
called the police

2805
02:04:19,780 --> 02:04:17,750
because his peeping tom was looking in

2806
02:04:21,880 --> 02:04:19,790
their window and watching them in their

2807
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:21,890
bedroom and stuff and then when the

2808
02:04:27,850 --> 02:04:25,850
Apache police arrived at these people

2809
02:04:30,070 --> 02:04:27,860
cabin and they and people who live in

2810
02:04:32,080 --> 02:04:30,080
remote areas of the forest there and

2811
02:04:33,970 --> 02:04:32,090
it's a giant forest what the police and

2812
02:04:36,310 --> 02:04:33,980
it was a woman who saw it what she

2813
02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:36,320
arrived there was this Bigfoot that was

2814
02:04:40,480 --> 02:04:38,330
there adept at these people's cabin and

2815
02:04:42,190 --> 02:04:40,490
this Bigfoot was skulking around he was

2816
02:04:44,710 --> 02:04:42,200
his peeping tom looking in their window

2817
02:04:46,810 --> 02:04:44,720
and the policewoman saw him right there

2818
02:04:49,300 --> 02:04:46,820
in the headlights and she filed a report

2819
02:04:51,280 --> 02:04:49,310
this Garland in the news here in Arizona

2820
02:04:54,820 --> 02:04:51,290
it became even national news and the

2821
02:04:56,920 --> 02:04:54,830
witnesses in this case were this Pachi

2822
02:04:59,230 --> 02:04:56,930
family but also this policewoman but

2823
02:05:03,850 --> 02:04:59,240
also like in the DuPont monster case in

2824
02:05:06,670 --> 02:05:03,860
Illinois what brought that Bigfoot into

2825
02:05:08,380 --> 02:05:06,680
the vicinity were enclosed for people

2826
02:05:11,290 --> 02:05:08,390
having these Close Encounters was

2827
02:05:13,270 --> 02:05:11,300
ultimately sex and Bigfoot you know

2828
02:05:14,860 --> 02:05:13,280
people were having sex in their cars or

2829
02:05:16,840 --> 02:05:14,870
in the white mountain thing in their

2830
02:05:18,340 --> 02:05:16,850
bedroom and Bigfoot wanted to see you

2831
02:05:20,650 --> 02:05:18,350
know what he was missing or what was

2832
02:05:24,910 --> 02:05:20,660
going on so not only his hair is kinky

2833
02:05:28,360 --> 02:05:24,920
then huh I couldn't I don't know well I

2834
02:05:30,610 --> 02:05:28,370
mean I understood what you think about

2835
02:05:32,710 --> 02:05:30,620
this Nick I mean so many of the British

2836
02:05:35,860 --> 02:05:32,720
with 40 and times and things like that

2837
02:05:37,450 --> 02:05:35,870
and the mystery black cast of England

2838
02:05:39,670 --> 02:05:37,460
and stuff like that when do you think

2839
02:05:42,130 --> 02:05:39,680
that Bigfoot has got the ability to sort

2840
02:05:43,810 --> 02:05:42,140
of appear and disappear or will you know

2841
02:05:46,030 --> 02:05:43,820
they have done a lot of research into

2842
02:05:48,160 --> 02:05:46,040
Bigfoot reports in Britain and what it

2843
02:05:50,170 --> 02:05:48,170
your surprises people to learn that

2844
02:05:53,590 --> 02:05:50,180
there's actually a tremendous number of

2845
02:05:55,900 --> 02:05:53,600
reports now if you go back to 1314

2846
02:05:58,420 --> 02:05:55,910
hundreds there very much described as

2847
02:06:00,370 --> 02:05:58,430
like wild man of the woods type stories

2848
02:06:02,080 --> 02:06:00,380
in the sense they look I won't say they

2849
02:06:04,720 --> 02:06:02,090
look like human being but they look more

2850
02:06:08,380 --> 02:06:04,730
like a hair covered human than they do a

2851
02:06:10,330 --> 02:06:08,390
giant ape now if you sort of go forward

2852
02:06:12,100 --> 02:06:10,340
to the present day we actually didn't

2853
02:06:14,440 --> 02:06:12,110
get a lot of reports that would fit into

2854
02:06:16,450 --> 02:06:14,450
like a classic Bigfoot category for

2855
02:06:18,550 --> 02:06:16,460
Britain now bear in mind Britain the

2856
02:06:20,650 --> 02:06:18,560
whole country of England Scotland and

2857
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:20,660
Wales is actually combined square mile

2858
02:06:25,300 --> 02:06:22,490
it is smaller than the state of Texas

2859
02:06:27,820 --> 02:06:25,310
and yet the population is for 20 percent

2860
02:06:28,690 --> 02:06:27,830
of the entire American population so in

2861
02:06:31,990 --> 02:06:28,700
other words

2862
02:06:34,930 --> 02:06:32,000
country prints heavily populated and one

2863
02:06:36,580 --> 02:06:34,940
of the problems we Bigfoot in Britain is

2864
02:06:39,190 --> 02:06:36,590
you could argue that it's seen too

2865
02:06:40,720 --> 02:06:39,200
frequently and for creature that are

2866
02:06:42,640 --> 02:06:40,730
described as being sort of seven foot

2867
02:06:45,190 --> 02:06:42,650
tall in the British Isles we would have

2868
02:06:47,350 --> 02:06:45,200
to see colonies of these creatures but

2869
02:06:49,840 --> 02:06:47,360
we only ever see them solitary and we

2870
02:06:53,530 --> 02:06:49,850
don't see evidence of what would have to

2871
02:06:56,530 --> 02:06:53,540
be massive feeding activity to sustain a

2872
02:06:58,240 --> 02:06:56,540
seven foot or three 400-pound creature

2873
02:06:59,980 --> 02:06:58,250
on a daily basis and that's on the

2874
02:07:02,110 --> 02:06:59,990
problems in Britain and we also get a

2875
02:07:05,170 --> 02:07:02,120
lot of reports of Bigfoot vanishing from

2876
02:07:07,690 --> 02:07:05,180
sight in Britain or haunting places like

2877
02:07:09,430 --> 02:07:07,700
old bridges cross roads which is

2878
02:07:12,100 --> 02:07:09,440
something you typically see in countless

2879
02:07:13,780 --> 02:07:12,110
paradol type stories so you know whereas

2880
02:07:15,970 --> 02:07:13,790
I think there's a good argument for

2881
02:07:17,770 --> 02:07:15,980
saying things like the Yeti and the arm

2882
02:07:19,630 --> 02:07:17,780
penned act of Sumatra are

2883
02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:19,640
flesh-and-blood animals I'm less

2884
02:07:23,500 --> 02:07:21,770
inclined to think that's the case in

2885
02:07:25,330 --> 02:07:23,510
Britain I think Bigfoot in Britain is

2886
02:07:27,220 --> 02:07:25,340
not just weird Bigfoot in Brittany see

2887
02:07:30,270 --> 02:07:27,230
he's like too weird well I agree with

2888
02:07:33,400 --> 02:07:30,280
you there that yeah Bigfoot in Britain

2889
02:07:35,260 --> 02:07:33,410
seems to be quite an anomaly and I've

2890
02:07:37,600 --> 02:07:35,270
heard you know there are some stories of

2891
02:07:39,940 --> 02:07:37,610
Bigfoot it there is it's kind of one

2892
02:07:42,580 --> 02:07:39,950
area where is there where people sort of

2893
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:42,590
see it but I in my mind there's not

2894
02:07:47,320 --> 02:07:44,570
really you know some large amount of

2895
02:07:49,030 --> 02:07:47,330
stories a Bigfoot in the UK that would

2896
02:07:50,650 --> 02:07:49,040
be surprising to me yeah I mean I

2897
02:07:52,900 --> 02:07:50,660
actually wrote a book on this cold man

2898
02:07:55,480 --> 02:07:52,910
monkey which was a study of a famous

2899
02:07:57,820 --> 02:07:55,490
case in central England which we report

2900
02:07:59,590 --> 02:07:57,830
kicked off in the late 1800s and

2901
02:08:02,320 --> 02:07:59,600
continued to this day at this one

2902
02:08:04,660 --> 02:08:02,330
particular bridge on which overlook

2903
02:08:06,190 --> 02:08:04,670
which runs over a canal a large bridge

2904
02:08:08,470 --> 02:08:06,200
it runs over canal in England the big

2905
02:08:11,020 --> 02:08:08,480
countless sightings Erebus we had played

2906
02:08:12,970 --> 02:08:11,030
creature with glowing silvery eyes and

2907
02:08:15,850 --> 02:08:12,980
and it has more like a paranormal

2908
02:08:17,860 --> 02:08:15,860
phantom aspect to it that he does

2909
02:08:19,390 --> 02:08:17,870
anything flesh-and-blood I'll tell you

2910
02:08:21,100 --> 02:08:19,400
what we get tomorrow man Nick in our

2911
02:08:23,620 --> 02:08:21,110
next section we have David Hatcher

2912
02:08:26,470 --> 02:08:23,630
Childress his book is called Yeti

2913
02:08:28,960 --> 02:08:26,480
Sasquatch and hairy giants the co-hosts

2914
02:08:36,030 --> 02:08:28,970
are Chris O'Brien and Nicholas Redfern

2915
02:08:36,040 --> 02:08:40,640
[Music]

2916
02:08:46,800 --> 02:08:44,670
is there a secret UFO agenda to strange

2917
02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:46,810
creatures from the darkest corners of

2918
02:08:52,140 --> 02:08:49,330
the mind roam the earth is there

2919
02:08:55,830 --> 02:08:52,150
evidence for mind control time travel or

2920
02:08:57,450 --> 02:08:55,840
devious government conspiracies find out

2921
02:09:00,480 --> 02:08:57,460
the inside scoop on the latest

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ladies and gentlemen I will not comment

3017
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on the rather lame effort of our

3018
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co-hosts in the previous section to

3019
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vocalize the power cast because if I

3020
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were to do it it would be worse and

3021
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we're not going to ask David by the way

3022
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David that's a new thing with guests now

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you have to vocalize on the air you know

3024
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you gotta sing David let me try it

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Erica there you go alright we'll record

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that and sell it and keep the profits

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David Hatcher Childress is author of

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Yeti Sasquatch and hairy giants the

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co-hosts are Chris O'Brien and Nicholas

3030
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Redfern I'm gene Steinberger in the

3031
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power cast since we got into that touchy

3032
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subject of paranormal Bigfoot so that

3033
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takes us back to this other kind of

3034
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creature the Mothman is the Mothman some

3035
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kind of winged Bigfoot David you know

3036
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that's interesting and one of the old

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issues of our magazine which is called

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world explore one of the articles was

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about bat Squatch which was out of out

3040
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of Washington State a kind of Mothman

3041
02:14:14,620 --> 02:14:11,400
type story of a winged Bigfoot kind of

3042
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guy who could say the Mothman

3043
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characteristics as well as that of

3044
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Bigfoot and yet pointed ears - yeah

3045
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pointed ears are the things bat

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squatches is what the newspapers you

3047
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know called him well you know if he has

3048
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pointed ears he's actually Spock Squatch

3049
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yeah that's right the whole concept of

3050
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flying humanoids and winged people

3051
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Mothman people you know humanoids flying

3052
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giant bats for that matter I mean that

3053
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was a fascinating subject and one that

3054
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deserves its own book with stuff like

3055
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that that is pretty paranormal I would

3056
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say and so once you do cross the line

3057
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from you know gorillas and orangutans

3058
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and and hairy eight men in Sumatra or

3059
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the Himalayas or even the United States

3060
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yeah when you get these flying critters

3061
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Mothman type of stuff yeah you're you're

3062
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really looking I think it's something

3063
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that is totally paranormal and it's

3064
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interesting to think with Mothman - he's

3065
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often said to be this harboring or

3066
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of death like a Yeti and what I was just

3067
02:15:24,959 --> 02:15:21,880
talking about earlier cow in the

3068
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Himalayas it's very very bad luck to see

3069
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a Yeti and it means you're gonna die and

3070
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that's kind of the same thing with

3071
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Mothman too bad yeah you seem off man

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and something Bad's gonna happen to you

3073
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kind of thing so a lot of people think

3074
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that with other things black cast you

3075
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know crossing your path

3076
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maybe something strange peering in your

3077
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window at night and yeah it's a bad omen

3078
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shall we say Nick what is your point of

3079
02:15:52,470 --> 02:15:50,380
view about all this you were briefly

3080
02:15:54,150 --> 02:15:52,480
telling us about that particular case

3081
02:15:57,140 --> 02:15:54,160
with the creature with the glowing eyes

3082
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in the UK my personal opinion are

3083
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investigating all these weird creatures

3084
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over the years I think two things are

3085
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going on one I think some of them are

3086
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definitely flesh-and-blood animals our

3087
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science hasn't recognized or categorized

3088
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yet but I think others are paranormal

3089
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but of course that depends how we define

3090
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what the paranormal might be you know is

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it something truly supernatural or is it

3092
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an aspect of science that we don't

3093
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necessarily fully understand yet and

3094
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that we call we call it paranormal

3095
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because that's the only way we can

3096
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describe it but I think what does happen

3097
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sometimes you get there's a tendency

3098
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when we're investigating strange

3099
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creatures but for many researchers you

3100
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can either/or thing you know you're

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either clustered the researcher who

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believes in the paranormal or you're the

3103
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nuts and bolts flesh-and-blood guy and I

3104
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think that's a mistake we sort of a

3105
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fatal mistake in reality I think as I

3106
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said there's several things going on and

3107
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just because Bigfoot's you know or the

3108
02:16:53,940 --> 02:16:51,729
Yeti and Himalayas appears to be a very

3109
02:16:56,040 --> 02:16:53,950
definite flesh-and-blood and animal and

3110
02:16:58,860 --> 02:16:56,050
I would say that again for the orang

3111
02:17:01,469 --> 02:16:58,870
pendeks in Sumatra the fact that we also

3112
02:17:04,950 --> 02:17:01,479
get paranormal qualities for some cases

3113
02:17:06,540 --> 02:17:04,960
I don't think destroys the scenario or

3114
02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:06,550
the other scenario what actually

3115
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suspects he does these suggest to us

3116
02:17:13,020 --> 02:17:10,780
that there's several things going on and

3117
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and as researchers we should treat them

3118
02:17:16,650 --> 02:17:14,550
as separate things not try and

3119
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force-feed them if you like into one

3120
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category and leave out the bits of the

3121
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stories that we don't like or whatever

3122
02:17:24,120 --> 02:17:22,210
with some reason it is unfortunately

3123
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news isn't that of course part of the

3124
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problem in trying to nail this down

3125
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which is of course one of the difficult

3126
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things and certainly people who

3127
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skeptical about the possibility of a

3128
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Bigfoot or this hairy creature whether

3129
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it's paranormal or physical or there's a

3130
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combination of both is performing the

3131
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kinds of investigations we need to take

3132
02:17:45,959 --> 02:17:43,660
it out of anecdotal evidence and bring

3133
02:17:48,299 --> 02:17:45,969
it into mainstream science so whoever

3134
02:17:50,160 --> 02:17:48,309
wants to pick up this okay how do we get

3135
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mainstream science to take any of this

3136
02:17:54,080 --> 02:17:51,790
seriously I don't know if someone's got

3137
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to get a 30.6 and bring one down I think

3138
02:17:59,850 --> 02:17:57,580
and have the whole post mortem process

3139
02:18:01,259 --> 02:17:59,860
documented one thing I would suggest to

3140
02:18:03,719 --> 02:18:01,269
people who are thinking about going out

3141
02:18:05,339 --> 02:18:03,729
and renting a gorilla costume and

3142
02:18:07,080 --> 02:18:05,349
running around the woods where they know

3143
02:18:09,390 --> 02:18:07,090
there's trail cams I would be very

3144
02:18:11,400 --> 02:18:09,400
careful I bet you there's some good old

3145
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boys out there they would just loved to

3146
02:18:16,560 --> 02:18:13,750
bring one down just to kind of get their

3147
02:18:18,509 --> 02:18:16,570
15 minutes of fame and probably a lot of

3148
02:18:20,759 --> 02:18:18,519
money for this I think David brought up

3149
02:18:23,759 --> 02:18:20,769
a really good point about trail cams and

3150
02:18:24,209 --> 02:18:23,769
the proliferation and preparation of so

3151
02:18:27,299 --> 02:18:24,219
cams

3152
02:18:28,980 --> 02:18:27,309
obviously the the handycam recorders

3153
02:18:30,839 --> 02:18:28,990
have come down in price I think we're

3154
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gonna see more and more visual evidence

3155
02:18:37,320 --> 02:18:34,450
of these things and and hopefully real

3156
02:18:40,049 --> 02:18:37,330
good quality evidence that would give

3157
02:18:41,969 --> 02:18:40,059
enough data I think for an optical an

3158
02:18:44,129 --> 02:18:41,979
optical examination by science to

3159
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:44,139
determine obviously if it's if it's a

3160
02:18:49,320 --> 02:18:47,050
hoax or real and if it is real start the

3161
02:18:51,870 --> 02:18:49,330
process of determining what we're

3162
02:18:53,879 --> 02:18:51,880
dealing with here scientifically I know

3163
02:18:55,350 --> 02:18:53,889
a lot of people in the forum absolutely

3164
02:18:58,410 --> 02:18:55,360
don't buy into the whole concept of

3165
02:19:00,089 --> 02:18:58,420
crypto creatures such as Bigfoot running

3166
02:19:02,100 --> 02:19:00,099
around I think David brought up a really

3167
02:19:06,080 --> 02:19:02,110
good point about the proliferation

3168
02:19:09,030 --> 02:19:06,090
perforation or whatever that word is

3169
02:19:11,219 --> 02:19:09,040
yeah everybody's got a cell cam

3170
02:19:13,200 --> 02:19:11,229
now there's the handycams have come way

3171
02:19:15,570 --> 02:19:13,210
down in price I think we're gonna see

3172
02:19:17,850 --> 02:19:15,580
more and more visual evidence this

3173
02:19:20,250 --> 02:19:17,860
obviously would be a place for science

3174
02:19:22,919 --> 02:19:20,260
to get involved to analyze some of these

3175
02:19:24,390 --> 02:19:22,929
videos determine if they're real and if

3176
02:19:27,390 --> 02:19:24,400
they are real what we're dealing with

3177
02:19:29,310 --> 02:19:27,400
obviously I'll bring in one down finding

3178
02:19:31,969 --> 02:19:29,320
the remains of one having physical

3179
02:19:34,860 --> 02:19:31,979
evidence would be the Holy Grail in this

3180
02:19:36,810 --> 02:19:34,870
scenario but I think that's where it's

3181
02:19:37,959 --> 02:19:36,820
got to start it's almost like you have

3182
02:19:40,719 --> 02:19:37,969
to prove

3183
02:19:42,129 --> 02:19:40,729
that's something you have to disprove a

3184
02:19:44,200 --> 02:19:42,139
negative in order to get science

3185
02:19:46,150 --> 02:19:44,210
involved just like in UFOs just like in

3186
02:19:48,760 --> 02:19:46,160
hauntings and other subjects that

3187
02:19:51,520 --> 02:19:48,770
science tends to hold its nose around

3188
02:19:54,070 --> 02:19:51,530
but that that would be I think the most

3189
02:19:55,929 --> 02:19:54,080
logical place where this whole thing is

3190
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going scientifically well I agree with

3191
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you there that yeah what I predicted is

3192
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going to happen is there's going to be

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more and more and more photos of Bigfoot

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video footage of Bigfoot

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YouTube is gonna have more and more

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quickie videos of a Bigfoot some of

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these videos are fascinating some are

3198
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just jokes or Xhosas what we're gonna

3199
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see more and more of that and it's

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because cameras are ubiquitous and the

3201
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same thing is kind of happening with

3202
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UFOs do more and more people are

3203
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carrying cameras and video footage and

3204
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therefore will get more good footage

3205
02:20:35,650 --> 02:20:33,380
daylight footage itself of UFOs the idea

3206
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that we're gonna actually get a live

3207
02:20:42,400 --> 02:20:39,320
Bigfoot on TV or something like that and

3208
02:20:44,380 --> 02:20:42,410
and that some press conference is going

3209
02:20:47,200 --> 02:20:44,390
to occur like last year which was a

3210
02:20:49,570 --> 02:20:47,210
total hoax but where someone says here

3211
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here's the dead Bigfoot you know we've

3212
02:20:54,910 --> 02:20:51,860
got it hopefully something like that

3213
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will happen one day it's kind of sad and

3214
02:21:01,179 --> 02:20:57,920
then and this is a controversial part of

3215
02:21:03,429 --> 02:21:01,189
all Bigfoot stories is it is yeah is it

3216
02:21:06,280 --> 02:21:03,439
okay to go out and shoot a Bigfoot I

3217
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mean is that murder and that's there's

3218
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already people who are campaigning

3219
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against that I mean a Bigfoot needs to

3220
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be saved we shouldn't have people

3221
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running around with guns looking for a

3222
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Bigfoot and even that would be a strange

3223
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sort of thing that might happen in the

3224
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future where suddenly Bigfoot is a

3225
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protected animal and the government has

3226
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to declare him you know as I was

3227
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protected no one is allowed to shoot

3228
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Bigfoot something like that and that

3229
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right there would be tantamount to the

3230
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government admitting that yeah these

3231
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creatures are out there and I think

3232
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that's a big step for them and it's what

3233
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I've gathered talking to people and

3234
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[Music]

3235
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encounters that they claim they've had

3236
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with Rangers and stuff we're Rangers

3237
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have basically acknowledged to them that

3238
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yes we know these animals are out there

3239
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yes you know we want to leave em be

3240
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please don't go you know hunting Bigfoot

3241
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during hunting season or something like

3242
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that and it's I think it is hunters who

3243
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do encounter because a number of stories

3244
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are people have weapons with them and

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they actually could shoot and kill a

3246
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Bigfoot but when the time comes they

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can't do it I'll tell you whether

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cast we will have one episode where

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everybody says the power cast and you

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will vote for the winner but this is not

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the episode we have David Hatcher

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Childress for one more session Yeti

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Sasquatch and hairy giants is the book

3376
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co-host to Chris O'Brien Nick Redfern

3377
02:27:50,520 --> 02:27:47,649
I'm gene Steinberg

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you're in the power cast okay so do we

3379
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regard therefore David as these

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creatures as being endangered species is

3381
02:28:01,440 --> 02:27:58,479
the other reason why maybe forest

3382
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rangers etc would say you know don't go

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there because they want to protect this

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02:28:09,630 --> 02:28:06,700
what's the story right I've kind of come

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to the conclusion that within the Ranger

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community there is a something of an

3387
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unwritten code of not hunting Bigfoot

3388
02:28:23,520 --> 02:28:19,410
not disturbing him leaving him alone

3389
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giving him his territory letting him do

3390
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his thing and the idea that that Bigfoot

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hunters are out there with guns trying

3392
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to kill Bigfoot they don't like that

3393
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idea it it really does come down to this

3394
02:28:44,760 --> 02:28:40,870
crux of the matter is Bigfoot some type

3395
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of humanoid theirs is eerily more human

3396
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and animal or you know is it is shooting

3397
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a Bigfoot you know the same as shooting

3398
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a chimpanzee or some other ape and part

3399
02:29:02,190 --> 02:28:57,820
of the problem here is that Bigfoot is

3400
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very human he's he is like a missing

3401
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link really and and it's interesting to

3402
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that except for the giganticus fossil

3403
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that we found in China which and they

3404
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they know that this giant ape did live

3405
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once and perhaps he is the Yeti and the

3406
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allness of Mongolia

3407
02:29:27,530 --> 02:29:24,120
but yeah where is where is that missing

3408
02:29:28,730 --> 02:29:27,540
link fossil well one of the things is

3409
02:29:31,160 --> 02:29:28,740
when we're talking about this earlier

3410
02:29:33,020 --> 02:29:31,170
about why don't people just find a

3411
02:29:34,790 --> 02:29:33,030
Bigfoot dad on the trail or something

3412
02:29:37,160 --> 02:29:34,800
and it's the same reason why you don't

3413
02:29:39,590 --> 02:29:37,170
see a bear a dead bear on the trail

3414
02:29:42,679 --> 02:29:39,600
while you're hiking and things don't

3415
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become fossils if a bear suddenly dies

3416
02:29:50,000 --> 02:29:45,600
of old age in the wood wood he's not

3417
02:29:52,700 --> 02:29:50,010
going to become a fossil if you you you

3418
02:29:54,410 --> 02:29:52,710
know shoot of a deer and just leave him

3419
02:29:57,620 --> 02:29:54,420
in the woods he won't become a fossil

3420
02:30:01,340 --> 02:29:57,630
either so we're so the idea that Bigfoot

3421
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is out there and that he is some kind of

3422
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missing link that between humans and and

3423
02:30:09,920 --> 02:30:08,370
and the Apes yeah I mean he's he can be

3424
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there without us really finding the

3425
02:30:14,660 --> 02:30:12,300
fossil record necessarily because

3426
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fossils are largely created through

3427
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cataclysms and anomalies things whether

3428
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they're dinosaurs or whatever they have

3429
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to be buried under tons of gravel and

3430
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ash and and in an airless environment

3431
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and then they create fossils that's not

3432
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what happens to most animals when they

3433
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when they died is there possibly because

3434
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there are more intelligent creatures a

3435
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Bigfoot burial ground I'm not being

3436
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silly this is a question oh right I know

3437
02:30:44,389 --> 02:30:41,630
exactly and uh I mean that's it they are

3438
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intelligent that way and they're I mean

3439
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they are partly human I believe in the

3440
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sense that they do things like a human

3441
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they they have sort of families they

3442
02:30:57,710 --> 02:30:55,380
would maybe bury the dead and have some

3443
02:30:59,810 --> 02:30:57,720
I don't think there's some big Bigfoot

3444
02:31:01,429 --> 02:30:59,820
burial ground in the you know up in

3445
02:31:05,780 --> 02:31:01,439
Washington that they all the Bigfoot go

3446
02:31:08,510 --> 02:31:05,790
to but when within their tribe as you

3447
02:31:11,179 --> 02:31:08,520
might call it yeah they would they would

3448
02:31:14,530 --> 02:31:11,189
bury day the dead if if something

3449
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happened even have their own weird

3450
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Bigfoot funeral you know I don't know

3451
02:31:22,969 --> 02:31:20,790
but yeah they in those ways they would

3452
02:31:25,990 --> 02:31:22,979
they would act more like humans rather

3453
02:31:30,469 --> 02:31:26,000
than than just complete animals they

3454
02:31:33,710 --> 02:31:30,479
they really are hardly human they have

3455
02:31:36,679 --> 02:31:33,720
intelligence they want to know

3456
02:31:39,950 --> 02:31:36,689
they were curious and from what I

3457
02:31:42,170 --> 02:31:39,960
gathered with Bigfoot stories it wants

3458
02:31:44,450 --> 02:31:42,180
to know what we're doing he's afraid of

3459
02:31:46,219 --> 02:31:44,460
us he doesn't want to really come into

3460
02:31:49,700 --> 02:31:46,229
the cities and stuff he knows that

3461
02:31:53,599 --> 02:31:49,710
that's not his place but people who live

3462
02:31:56,300 --> 02:31:53,609
in remote forested areas yeah they it's

3463
02:31:58,969 --> 02:31:56,310
quite possible that they'll be visited

3464
02:32:00,740 --> 02:31:58,979
by a Bigfoot and Bigfoots curious about

3465
02:32:02,479 --> 02:32:00,750
them he wants to know what what they're

3466
02:32:04,340 --> 02:32:02,489
doing I don't think he's kind of like a

3467
02:32:06,019 --> 02:32:04,350
hypothetical question but you know as

3468
02:32:08,840 --> 02:32:06,029
we've touched on this angle about these

3469
02:32:10,790 --> 02:32:08,850
creatures potentially being semi human

3470
02:32:13,639 --> 02:32:10,800
or part human what do you think the

3471
02:32:16,460 --> 02:32:13,649
legal ramifications would be if these

3472
02:32:19,280 --> 02:32:16,470
creatures were found to be related to us

3473
02:32:21,380 --> 02:32:19,290
I mean could it potentially stop logging

3474
02:32:24,139 --> 02:32:21,390
you know they're his logging companies

3475
02:32:26,150 --> 02:32:24,149
because we're actually talking about the

3476
02:32:27,679 --> 02:32:26,160
habitats or the type of human being that

3477
02:32:28,910 --> 02:32:27,689
would be cutting down he'd be the same

3478
02:32:31,309 --> 02:32:28,920
as you know chopping down somebody's

3479
02:32:33,650 --> 02:32:31,319
backyard he'd barely play that legal

3480
02:32:35,870 --> 02:32:33,660
right as a type of human I mean do you

3481
02:32:38,420 --> 02:32:35,880
think the legal issue might have a

3482
02:32:40,940 --> 02:32:38,430
bearing upon the fact that nobody in the

3483
02:32:42,830 --> 02:32:40,950
official world wants to deal with you

3484
02:32:48,110 --> 02:32:42,840
know Nick I think that's exactly it

3485
02:32:49,700 --> 02:32:48,120
as I've it's a resources and and torture

3486
02:32:53,450 --> 02:32:49,710
people one has come to that conclusion

3487
02:32:57,260 --> 02:32:53,460
that you know the officials they don't

3488
02:32:59,800 --> 02:32:57,270
want Bigfoot to be recognized really

3489
02:33:02,599 --> 02:32:59,810
because it will create more problems

3490
02:33:04,370 --> 02:33:02,609
than and they want to deal with which is

3491
02:33:06,500 --> 02:33:04,380
exactly what you're saying though

3492
02:33:09,380 --> 02:33:06,510
suddenly they'll have to create

3493
02:33:12,679 --> 02:33:09,390
literally you know protection areas for

3494
02:33:14,900 --> 02:33:12,689
Bigfoot and we have to declare them some

3495
02:33:19,250 --> 02:33:14,910
kind of protected species it would stop

3496
02:33:22,429 --> 02:33:19,260
logging even you know Bigfoot rights

3497
02:33:25,820 --> 02:33:22,439
groups sprang up and they would you know

3498
02:33:27,620 --> 02:33:25,830
there's of campaigning for for Bigfoot

3499
02:33:30,740 --> 02:33:27,630
just like they do all the animals and

3500
02:33:33,349 --> 02:33:30,750
things and and and there's just a giant

3501
02:33:36,349 --> 02:33:33,359
can of worms that the authorities just

3502
02:33:38,719 --> 02:33:36,359
don't want to open up something else

3503
02:33:41,210 --> 02:33:38,729
they would be afraid of I think is if

3504
02:33:44,450 --> 02:33:41,220
they were to acknowledge that certain

3505
02:33:47,360 --> 02:33:44,460
areas had Bigfoot in it I mean that

3506
02:33:49,640 --> 02:33:47,370
would because of the popularity of

3507
02:33:52,190 --> 02:33:49,650
paranormal stuff and these TV shows of

3508
02:33:55,430 --> 02:33:52,200
Monster Hunters and everything suddenly

3509
02:33:58,370 --> 02:33:55,440
yeah every every crazy

3510
02:34:01,570 --> 02:33:58,380
Young Buck with a with a gun you know

3511
02:34:04,490 --> 02:34:01,580
wanted depends on some you know

3512
02:34:06,261 --> 02:34:04,500
wilderness area or some swamp and

3513
02:34:08,450 --> 02:34:06,271
Arkansas or something and stuff like

3514
02:34:11,030 --> 02:34:08,460
this has already happened and yeah there

3515
02:34:14,600 --> 02:34:11,040
ought to capture Bigfoot and shoot it

3516
02:34:17,720 --> 02:34:14,610
you know seals a Bigfoot yeah I mean and

3517
02:34:20,780 --> 02:34:17,730
actually with the what they call the

3518
02:34:23,960 --> 02:34:20,790
boggy creek monster or it's actually

3519
02:34:26,540 --> 02:34:23,970
known as the folk monster in Arkansas

3520
02:34:28,100 --> 02:34:26,550
that's what happened I mean Asian I mean

3521
02:34:31,250 --> 02:34:28,110
it made a couple of movies about this

3522
02:34:32,900 --> 02:34:31,260
too but when and and in those in those

3523
02:34:35,330 --> 02:34:32,910
stories Bigfoot actually went to this

3524
02:34:38,301 --> 02:34:35,340
remote cabin and was trying to get at

3525
02:34:42,020 --> 02:34:38,311
this teenage girl who ran screaming I

3526
02:34:44,390 --> 02:34:42,030
mean so but later what happened was and

3527
02:34:47,570 --> 02:34:44,400
that area was famous for these Bigfoot

3528
02:34:50,140 --> 02:34:47,580
and swamp aids that yeah haunting

3529
02:34:53,540 --> 02:34:50,150
parties you know went into those swamps

3530
02:34:56,060 --> 02:34:53,550
they were there out to shoot the boggy

3531
02:34:58,400 --> 02:34:56,070
creek monster kind of thing and of

3532
02:35:00,890 --> 02:34:58,410
course the police and the Rangers they

3533
02:35:03,410 --> 02:35:00,900
don't want that and you get a bunch of

3534
02:35:06,950 --> 02:35:03,420
you know crazy monster hunters who are

3535
02:35:09,011 --> 02:35:06,960
armed running around just like it just

3536
02:35:11,540 --> 02:35:09,021
like in hunting season it's dangerous

3537
02:35:17,150 --> 02:35:11,550
people are shooting at each other they

3538
02:35:20,450 --> 02:35:17,160
they're trigger-happy they take a

3539
02:35:24,100 --> 02:35:20,460
tranquilizer gun with heavy-duty dose of

3540
02:35:26,511 --> 02:35:24,110
some sort of you know super powerful

3541
02:35:28,490 --> 02:35:26,521
sedative or tranquilizer go out and

3542
02:35:30,530 --> 02:35:28,500
tranq one hey I tell you we're just

3543
02:35:33,080 --> 02:35:30,540
about out of time but I like the idea of

3544
02:35:35,210 --> 02:35:33,090
the tranquilizer or maybe a Taser

3545
02:35:37,850 --> 02:35:35,220
although tasers can sometimes be fatal

3546
02:35:39,440 --> 02:35:37,860
David Hatcher Childress take maybe 45

3547
02:35:39,860 --> 02:35:39,450
seconds or so and tell us about this

3548
02:35:44,660 --> 02:35:39,870
book

3549
02:35:47,270 --> 02:35:44,670
well Yeti Sasquatch and hairy Sciences

3550
02:35:50,390 --> 02:35:47,280
it's my latest book so we're gonna add a

3551
02:35:52,810 --> 02:35:50,400
few monsters it's got a color photo

3552
02:35:55,700 --> 02:35:52,820
section in it of all the latest Bigfoot

3553
02:35:58,130 --> 02:35:55,710
photos that's relatively impression

3554
02:36:00,310 --> 02:35:58,140
president I Nick said he liked it and

3555
02:36:03,910 --> 02:36:00,320
what I've tried to do in this book is

3556
02:36:06,370 --> 02:36:03,920
is give a pretty round explanation a

3557
02:36:08,200 --> 02:36:06,380
Bigfoot all over the world the best

3558
02:36:10,541 --> 02:36:08,210
evidence I could find and bring people

3559
02:36:12,671 --> 02:36:10,551
up to speed the last 10 years of all the

3560
02:36:14,470 --> 02:36:12,681
fascinating Bigfoot sightings that have

3561
02:36:18,220 --> 02:36:14,480
happened Nick Redfern where do we find

3562
02:36:20,890 --> 02:36:18,230
more the things that you do Chris

3563
02:36:23,501 --> 02:36:20,900
O'Brien less easy where do we find more

3564
02:36:27,131 --> 02:36:23,511
of your stuff our strange planet calm

3565
02:36:29,470 --> 02:36:27,141
and at the bear cast as a matter of fact

3566
02:36:31,720 --> 02:36:29,480
Chris is one of our forum moderators so

3567
02:36:33,970 --> 02:36:31,730
if you check at forum dr. Peric ascom

3568
02:36:36,131 --> 02:36:33,980
chris hangs out there you'll find more

3569
02:36:38,830 --> 02:36:36,141
of the things he does being a moderator

3570
02:36:40,440 --> 02:36:38,840
also if you're a bad boy or girl he'll

3571
02:36:42,970 --> 02:36:40,450
do something about it

3572
02:36:44,860 --> 02:36:42,980
David Hatcher Childress Chris O'Brien

3573
02:36:48,700 --> 02:36:44,870
Nick Redfern thank you all for joining

3574
02:36:49,091 --> 02:36:48,710
us this week on the power cast hey thank

3575
02:36:51,251 --> 02:36:49,101
you

3576
02:37:02,980 --> 02:36:51,261
yeah thanks David thanks gene and Nick

3577
02:37:08,010 --> 02:37:02,990
great job tune in next week for a new